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Date: Thu, 8 May 2014 15:46:06 +0300
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To: Andi Gutmans <andi@zend.com>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] phpng: Refactored PHP Engine with Big Performance Improvement
From: zeev@zend.com (Zeev Suraski)

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On 8 =D7=91=D7=9E=D7=90=D7=99 2014, at 04:50, Andi Gutmans <andi@zend.com> =
wrote:

On May 6, 2014, at 11:36 PM, Zeev Suraski <zeev@zend.com> wrote:

On 7 =D7=91=D7=9E=D7=90=D7=99 2014, at 09:13, Sebastian Bergmann <sebastian=
@php.net> wrote:



Playing devil's advocate: does anyone really need SAPIs other than

FastCGI, CLI, and embed? And if so: do we care enough to burden

ourselves with their maintenance?



I think you just called me "the devil" ;)


Seriously, I can't think of any *real* reason of why anybody would

need something other than these SAPIs in 2014 (other than FUD).

Things like ISAPI and other more esoteric SAPIs are no brainers, and

while mod_php may be a bit more of a leap of faith, it doesn't truly

brings any tangible benefits over FastCGI (none that can't be

relatively easily replicated in userland anyway, eg htscanner).


I'd support it.



For what it=E2=80=99s worth I don=E2=80=99t think we should stop supporting=
 mod_php at this
point in time.
I think there are still plenty of situations where this is the easier,
simpler route to go and quite robust.


Such as?

FastCGI (or fpm) is just as robust, it's a lot more scalable and has mostly
just advantages.  The main thing mod_php has going for it is history.
 There are no real technological advances and the rise of PHP on nginx can
attest to that.

Zeev

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