Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:74046 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 36208 invoked from network); 8 May 2014 01:50:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 May 2014 01:50:56 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=andi@zend.com; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=andi@zend.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com from 209.85.220.51 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: andi@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.220.51 mail-pa0-f51.google.com Received: from [209.85.220.51] ([209.85.220.51:62185] helo=mail-pa0-f51.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 0C/B0-31332-003EA635 for ; Wed, 07 May 2014 21:50:56 -0400 Received: by mail-pa0-f51.google.com with SMTP id kq14so1945858pab.24 for ; Wed, 07 May 2014 18:50:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references :to; bh=vpntRztJDcuOx/kp2ktEL5YYFG6p2fkvDo3kN0Xu910=; b=HoG7CvS7QxFzok9h9gv2TxVK2rLtzhZpcl3lgsOPmfZ6dmVEU+lR12p/uZ8o/eQW42 UihiOXiHp2jzJKHfXypphg/AmkxDyIxIgrzsKWdt69K1NJnhz2yTSiqLBsujRM/s18wB HdXEQbyingwBP0u61r4Y1wZDTyrXs3o+33OUBxWKO7laB7iB9kTHCVyMZvJIp/2wncJ6 kGBU0MS8v59WkbfxvnJiFgxEap6gGPP9PeenCjclZ9RaY4eD8E+OT18yGb2rsjorO1dS mR5N4jWkb+1eKZ3GsgWnMbHrvb9dLj+QI5lBznkwMPmdb6gmfUSKEJbm7kRBBK36MHF9 QXsg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmvJnfYUjxEeHKbpAyAU4nUaBekFlmtI7nN0LWXRYk8+As+SPUbGg1JVeb09cTLzhWzq4YT7bYUoidfqW7oOFEkNGlfhzKleoz2ifkJxeeiT9JxWdUuiRmtgADtzKZKxdNILCau X-Received: by 10.66.120.201 with SMTP id le9mr1493696pab.98.1399513853427; Wed, 07 May 2014 18:50:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.112] (c-24-130-225-174.hsd1.ca.comcast.net. [24.130.225.174]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id i10sm121363891pat.36.2014.05.07.18.50.51 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 07 May 2014 18:50:52 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.2 \(1874\)) In-Reply-To: <4339111475046055305@unknownmsgid> Date: Wed, 7 May 2014 18:50:50 -0700 Cc: Sebastian Bergmann , "internals@lists.php.net" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <578A5A21-A820-42AD-A218-FB8049F63B82@zend.com> References: <5369CED9.5010001@php.net> <4339111475046055305@unknownmsgid> To: Zeev Suraski X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1874) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] phpng: Refactored PHP Engine with Big Performance Improvement From: andi@zend.com (Andi Gutmans) On May 6, 2014, at 11:36 PM, Zeev Suraski wrote: >> On 7 =D7=91=D7=9E=D7=90=D7=99 2014, at 09:13, Sebastian Bergmann = wrote: >>=20 >>=20 >> Playing devil's advocate: does anyone really need SAPIs other than >> FastCGI, CLI, and embed? And if so: do we care enough to burden >> ourselves with their maintenance? >>=20 >=20 > I think you just called me "the devil" ;) >=20 > Seriously, I can't think of any *real* reason of why anybody would > need something other than these SAPIs in 2014 (other than FUD). > Things like ISAPI and other more esoteric SAPIs are no brainers, and > while mod_php may be a bit more of a leap of faith, it doesn't truly > brings any tangible benefits over FastCGI (none that can't be > relatively easily replicated in userland anyway, eg htscanner). >=20 > I'd support it. >=20 For what it=E2=80=99s worth I don=E2=80=99t think we should stop = supporting mod_php at this point in time. I think there are still plenty of situations where this is the easier, = simpler route to go and quite robust. Andi