Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:74008 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 42154 invoked from network); 7 May 2014 10:41:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 May 2014 10:41:10 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=dmitry@zend.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=dmitry@zend.com; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com from 209.85.220.181 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: dmitry@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.220.181 mail-vc0-f181.google.com Received: from [209.85.220.181] ([209.85.220.181:58059] helo=mail-vc0-f181.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 9B/B3-17246-3CD0A635 for ; Wed, 07 May 2014 06:41:08 -0400 Received: by mail-vc0-f181.google.com with SMTP id ld13so434137vcb.12 for ; Wed, 07 May 2014 03:41:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=E691vvNrK2dTBoQ848dCxgpN9AeRQeV/7fxat876JyI=; b=SaQc7Og5Qadju+UhqCiVv4w2NPGcVra6hfVR8tjV2vBcbNq02Gbw99r+E11UNHVWU5 +95efJ4jNtemfoWFRzy+dEmddibP4XFIS1XB7VmVLGEZmoc53quPiHOx0WqacepndQD2 gYCbGmAWy21tCvhSEcKpu3wsxQyUATUInAERm7S8/wffNfVX1T5agZb34WmbT2CyDqY4 9xV0oaXmgqC+0pFrx3x9auKstd2TuSwz6qee1fISRv98Bqo0AQfBC1onUKgVclImyRNu +3FuxeG2gcfWiyG1a9lKLkLRvpOmdGJtn1bO+4oPb+oiTMNi/lNnzqBDmzqkkAZ8t+bh hPeQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkeL1UU7bvppURoyVt8bPca2lsvJCjKTwqhTseq54Wa81DTvMPawuZc4CAtdem+ILSkMo2ZCrCt/Sxodc9r0J6Wsv9OhsLxbueATAJNdQyVKq5UF/CQ970PISrJMvGlu/j1hHsr MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.166.102 with SMTP id zf6mr31862340vdb.2.1399459264876; Wed, 07 May 2014 03:41:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.23.38 with HTTP; Wed, 7 May 2014 03:41:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <5369CED9.5010001@php.net> <4339111475046055305@unknownmsgid> Date: Wed, 7 May 2014 14:41:04 +0400 Message-ID: To: Ferenc Kovacs Cc: Zeev Suraski , Sebastian Bergmann , "internals@lists.php.net" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c361dc5c6e9704f8cd0002 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] phpng: Refactored PHP Engine with Big Performance Improvement From: dmitry@zend.com (Dmitry Stogov) --001a11c361dc5c6e9704f8cd0002 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I recently converted apache2handler to support phpng and it's appeared significantly slower than FastCGI and FPM. So I'm even not sure if it makes sense to support it. Especially, remembering problems with compatibility between mod_php and mod_perl for example that use the same libraries. It's just thoughts, I'm not going to remove something :) Thanks. Dmitry. On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 1:56 PM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: > On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 8:36 AM, Zeev Suraski wrote: > > > > On 7 =D7=91=D7=9E=D7=90=D7=99 2014, at 09:13, Sebastian Bergmann > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Playing devil's advocate: does anyone really need SAPIs other than > > > FastCGI, CLI, and embed? And if so: do we care enough to burden > > > ourselves with their maintenance? > > > > > > > I think you just called me "the devil" ;) > > > > Seriously, I can't think of any *real* reason of why anybody would > > need something other than these SAPIs in 2014 (other than FUD). > > Things like ISAPI and other more esoteric SAPIs are no brainers, and > > while mod_php may be a bit more of a leap of faith, it doesn't truly > > brings any tangible benefits over FastCGI (none that can't be > > relatively easily replicated in userland anyway, eg htscanner). > > > > I'd support it. > > > > Zeev > > > > -- > > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > > > > You forgot fpm and phpdbg from that list. > A little bit offtopic, but I think it would be nice if we could have some > pecl-like infrastructure to host and install 3rd party sapis without the > need to bundle them with the core. > > ps: maybe something like https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=3D66589 could be > also considered then. > > -- > Ferenc Kov=C3=A1cs > @Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu > --001a11c361dc5c6e9704f8cd0002--