Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:73999 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 17565 invoked from network); 7 May 2014 06:41:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 May 2014 06:41:50 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=zeev@zend.com; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=zeev@zend.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com from 209.85.128.172 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: zeev@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.128.172 mail-ve0-f172.google.com Received: from [209.85.128.172] ([209.85.128.172:51155] helo=mail-ve0-f172.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id D2/00-17246-CA5D9635 for ; Wed, 07 May 2014 02:41:49 -0400 Received: by mail-ve0-f172.google.com with SMTP id oz11so693207veb.3 for ; Tue, 06 May 2014 23:41:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:references:from:mime-version:in-reply-to:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=A/h4VGMV3vDRHkM6y8AP3kkTomUOwKnDRe0a4Foai3o=; b=RZ8srjzOjZWl49DgdPurWDs9TA8AwQv/N50NoAhDWjyNDtweUQmkIEHzTPRa/MDbYu ptoA77c/mHK/GPM6mJBIUsgxeD2kmEPp1yaWYXLsWwqAjfSk5MDTMCY6n8K36CCjWdZb QtyJafXQNTsgLM/JqUP0A23uKgiqSvfCxKpMr7hd2Yha0/Qo7oRoeRB6KAujpE8CzcTo 0DZo/8LBGtvxaAYhmS9wzfzA617K6DCQ3qqis+Qr9yGfWwQfy5aRwqzAjAwvndfev7cN WSkC9J8KDFp6As2bL4g7n9mc0IL9FaXhte1/4do6g/zwvRq95IedMDeRrtczEqJvvnOJ 2imA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlGzPT86to48BHnlZrUWQQgwdgd2JqM36dcEqTzp7ymyuG1hsUK6CITznprp0WnroZvTPWaKTAGbdj3pHZmZBKG6wNiGSxMBF5fYUwWrDzrNEguKp6UwhW3Zy5De7rny/pVCbe0 X-Received: by 10.52.166.102 with SMTP id zf6mr31032398vdb.2.1399444577557; Tue, 06 May 2014 23:36:17 -0700 (PDT) References: <5369CED9.5010001@php.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) In-Reply-To: <5369CED9.5010001@php.net> Date: Wed, 7 May 2014 09:36:14 +0300 Message-ID: <4339111475046055305@unknownmsgid> To: Sebastian Bergmann Cc: "internals@lists.php.net" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] phpng: Refactored PHP Engine with Big Performance Improvement From: zeev@zend.com (Zeev Suraski) > On 7 =D7=91=D7=9E=D7=90=D7=99 2014, at 09:13, Sebastian Bergmann wrote: > > > Playing devil's advocate: does anyone really need SAPIs other than > FastCGI, CLI, and embed? And if so: do we care enough to burden > ourselves with their maintenance? > I think you just called me "the devil" ;) Seriously, I can't think of any *real* reason of why anybody would need something other than these SAPIs in 2014 (other than FUD). Things like ISAPI and other more esoteric SAPIs are no brainers, and while mod_php may be a bit more of a leap of faith, it doesn't truly brings any tangible benefits over FastCGI (none that can't be relatively easily replicated in userland anyway, eg htscanner). I'd support it. Zeev