Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:73940 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 86695 invoked from network); 6 May 2014 06:25:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 May 2014 06:25:08 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=dmitry@zend.com; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=dmitry@zend.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com from 209.85.212.176 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: dmitry@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.212.176 mail-wi0-f176.google.com Received: from [209.85.212.176] ([209.85.212.176:53282] helo=mail-wi0-f176.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 90/9E-44049-14088635 for ; Tue, 06 May 2014 02:25:07 -0400 Received: by mail-wi0-f176.google.com with SMTP id n15so3943370wiw.15 for ; Mon, 05 May 2014 23:25:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=8tTNeO5LhqPknFtjtrSxqB+of0ir8ytlZR6QplfA53c=; b=BfOZ8vo2yh17jn+fjtDpcwX5tkSsB/mpTd8WRPSJsesySHV8+eavz96USjbGCMvh1p t79SEvJ8jt1YMGK88NCUrFfFv7F4125auwdiPHLXtW4U+uvYTpY8BnOeZ58LrITM8FEU mckRk3naIzVZAWGQMxuGftnI6w+sGL5Gbkvwtk1pMvwtXoQzJpIdNwajc9boKQ1rXFWZ +Um1smBr9drc39MIWWDezx/u9GNHAiAd3JBEB4Mnm6Mlq5XirvAX5eZP6j9SlQUHow8P gVnT6K0jp6Y3yZwr252MF45bbUqnU44okEKp1KlQLhJBvf8jTXPZ02xrljGlDbJgVJFC KVNw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkfJFULoOaZT4YV7P+I7LY1bybkDGy74HG4KPXoDeAzXsBudoWJ38O+19MdJQEOx3RDywXHpdQMMQnVm/GGTZ63a+RPiRJ4HNp17hHFALO4fN4Ddf9qjwBDlfOhMc8JNL9PWxla MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.75.45 with SMTP id z13mr19555071wiv.41.1399357502501; Mon, 05 May 2014 23:25:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.234.6 with HTTP; Mon, 5 May 2014 23:25:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 6 May 2014 10:25:02 +0400 Message-ID: To: Pierre Joye Cc: PHP Internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d043893edd9c77f04f8b54e9e Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] phpng: Refactored PHP Engine with Big Performance Improvement From: dmitry@zend.com (Dmitry Stogov) --f46d043893edd9c77f04f8b54e9e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 10:14 AM, Pierre Joye wrote: > On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 7:56 AM, Dmitry Stogov wrote: > > int64 proposal is still in draft for very long time. > > Sorry, but it was proposed and rejected because of the changes were > too big for the 5.x serie. It has been said, as arguments for the no, > that it would not be a problem for php 6. We are so far. > I was never glad with size_t string lengths and told about it. > > > Do you provide support for all other unrelated proposals when you offer > your > > own? > > I do not understand the question, what do you mean? > I mean that when you develop something big, you have to be concentrated on the goals you are going to solve and not on compatibility with others proposals. > > However, about support, we do offer support for almost every proposal, > be for testing, build fixes, etc. Pro actively in most cases, whether > it is in our priorities list or not. My reasoning here is pretty > simple, a stable PHP, for all supported platform or configuration is > critical for the success of PHP. Cooperation too. > > > Lets think how to integrate them. I propose doing it in two steps > (measuring > > the performance and memory consumption difference). > > If the degradation is going to be invisible, I won't object. > > The numbers are available already, using master and 5.5-5.6. We > obviously do not have numbers using your patch but I do not think the > delta will be any different. > phpng completely changes zval structure and reduces overhead of some subsystems, so the numbers might be different. Thanks. Dmitry. > > > Cheers, > -- > Pierre > > @pierrejoye | http://www.libgd.org > --f46d043893edd9c77f04f8b54e9e--