Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:73575 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 84666 invoked from network); 3 Apr 2014 15:02:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Apr 2014 15:02:19 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre@pcservice.co.za; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre@pcservice.co.za; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain pcservice.co.za designates 67.18.36.19 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre@pcservice.co.za X-Host-Fingerprint: 67.18.36.19 gateway01.websitewelcome.com Linux 2.6 Received: from [67.18.36.19] ([67.18.36.19:56523] helo=gateway01.websitewelcome.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id AD/A1-10692-9F77D335 for ; Thu, 03 Apr 2014 10:02:18 -0500 Received: by gateway01.websitewelcome.com (Postfix, from userid 5007) id 310C0C8ED0AF0; Thu, 3 Apr 2014 10:02:15 -0500 (CDT) Received: from vinacomin.websitewelcome.com (vinacomin.websitewelcome.com [192.185.157.97]) by gateway01.websitewelcome.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84816C8ED06F6 for ; Thu, 3 Apr 2014 10:02:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [209.85.215.47] (port=58603 helo=mail-la0-f47.google.com) by vinacomin.websitewelcome.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1WVj9g-0008Qh-To for internals@lists.php.net; Thu, 03 Apr 2014 10:02:13 -0500 Received: by mail-la0-f47.google.com with SMTP id pn19so1443839lab.34 for ; Thu, 03 Apr 2014 08:02:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.152.183.162 with SMTP id en2mr186381lac.76.1396537330964; Thu, 03 Apr 2014 08:02:10 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: pierre@pcservice.co.za Received: by 10.112.118.235 with HTTP; Thu, 3 Apr 2014 08:01:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <533D0AAE.8070809@lsces.co.uk> References: <533C0713.9070106@eliw.com> <533C6E5F.4020702@eliw.com> <533C7DB1.5020401@lsces.co.uk> <533D0AAE.8070809@lsces.co.uk> Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2014 17:01:40 +0200 Message-ID: To: Lester Caine Cc: PHP Development Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11345d52871f9504f624afd9 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vinacomin.websitewelcome.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lists.php.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - pcservice.co.za X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 209.85.215.47 X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: (mail-la0-f47.google.com) [209.85.215.47]:58603 X-Source-Auth: pierre@pcservice.co.za X-Email-Count: 2 X-Source-Cap: cGNzZXJ2aWM7cGllcnJlO3ZpbmFjb21pbi53ZWJzaXRld2VsY29tZS5jb20= Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] About PHP6 ... From: pierre@pcservice.co.za (Pierre du Plessis) --001a11345d52871f9504f624afd9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 9:15 AM, Lester Caine wrote: > Kris Craig wrote: > >> Well now we're arguing semantics. Seeing as how you have to include these >> filters and the results only make-up a tiny fraction of the total-- >> combined with the fact that those results are all from more than half a >> decade ago-- I think the word "few" is generous. >> > > Which is why I targeted books currently actively being sold on Amazon ... > all of which have little to do with any of the new planning for PHPX. But > results produced by both google and bing perhaps indicate why there was > never a windows 4,5 or 6. People are more than used to strange naming > sequences, and while I would happily accept a switch to PHP'X', PHP6 may > not have been distributed but it has a very real existence in development > work. > > So I'm with Zeev, Andi and others. Searching just PHP sites, PHP7 only > comes up a few times and in context of further changes to those planned in > PHP6 previously. Even Rasmus has pointed out that the existing PHP6 plans > documented in all those premature books, many of which are available as > ebboks now, was more than just unicode, so how would a novice know if they > are looking at newPHP6 or oldPHP6 material? > > What about the thousands of books on PHP 5 that is about PHP 5.2 or 5.1 still? If somebody wants to learn PHP 5 and they buy a book, how would they know if they are going to learn 5.3, 5.4, 5.5 to or get outdated information about 5.2? For that reason why was PHP 5.3 never named PHP 7 and PHP 5.4 named PHP 8 to avoid confusion with authors still writing about PHP 5.2? So how about going with PHP 6.1? There are many resources that specifically target PHP 5.3 and 5.4 and 5.5, so authors can do the same for 6.1 If someone wants to learn the latest version of PHP, they would just google for books on PHP 6.1 and not ask questions about why there is a version 7 without a version 6. --001a11345d52871f9504f624afd9--