Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:73559 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 48329 invoked from network); 3 Apr 2014 10:02:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Apr 2014 10:02:10 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=phoenix@jonstirling.co.uk; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=phoenix@jonstirling.co.uk; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain jonstirling.co.uk from 209.85.215.47 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: phoenix@jonstirling.co.uk X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.215.47 mail-la0-f47.google.com Received: from [209.85.215.47] ([209.85.215.47:45267] helo=mail-la0-f47.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 0F/C5-15417-1A13D335 for ; Thu, 03 Apr 2014 05:02:10 -0500 Received: by mail-la0-f47.google.com with SMTP id pn19so1128065lab.20 for ; Thu, 03 Apr 2014 03:02:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=rPlPfSRgPy6IyjmCd6lIGwF9fuIdpHjkq94vxDeb7JA=; b=ddqZA5LLlJk1zfOH64x0tiVCZgSYq7mGUZ27Z8PGVikiQZw1TEVTx155RY6pPn/Yl1 OgdDDYXcmy590+is4fAkzZvqEBFtHlPwMlRa72VIYayvxutHyAFtL45/p0Gj87hRSdVu caWIqj/HCBc0BZ/TaFt6Qpt7YWgKx0K2SXyYarQYL1TnYnTuakxeAs3/E+MmV16QUQdj Jh2ivqLnAUdex0eIEieff1k5yWcw/IJipBNPCe2CTsqt/3GMSYtPGLdzOKU8YS7Y5sj2 3oHtrdWYLfFLltTUuN5+7GViv/Z7SanB9xu7GVdpIVoqkmbGsp8YBe3JrPRFAyhh1uwq NavA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQk801V6oi7NglY3H8OI0FkTg/DSMAL205zJF3mzp/A9MGCXdbGpCPoCPHc42iHRrVNXI6HL MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.120.195 with SMTP id le3mr3987497lab.6.1396519326748; Thu, 03 Apr 2014 03:02:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.88.80 with HTTP; Thu, 3 Apr 2014 03:02:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [62.252.0.138] In-Reply-To: References: <533C0713.9070106@eliw.com> Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2014 11:02:06 +0100 Message-ID: To: Pierre Joye Cc: Eli , PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e01227abc64a49f04f6207e15 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] About PHP6 ... From: phoenix@jonstirling.co.uk (Jonny Stirling) --089e01227abc64a49f04f6207e15 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi all. Let put things in perspective: > - PHP 6-dev (the -dev part is important here) was killed 5 years ago > (or maybe more, did not check the exact time) > - book about it have been released, how it is remotely related to us > is a mistery but let consider them as valid... > . Current idea is to get 6 out in ~ two years. Making these books > like 7-8 years old by the time php 6 will be released > . The communication about the development of php 6 will outcome any > legacy results in google/bing and other > . The couple of books still on sale are likely to be removed (if not > already, as I never saw one except ebook, and really, anyone buying 5 > years old book in tech ...) > Calling it 6 in the first place was potentially the mistake, one we maybe shouldn't make a second time. At the moment, PHP.next doesn't really exist. What it will eventually be called is surely a question for when we get around to distributing it, e.g. shortly before first alpha. Until then (imo) there is no benefit to deciding this now, or in the near future. Any use of names PHP6 or PHP7 or even PHP8 before it exists is just going to continue the issues brought up here in the future. That being the case, perhaps keeping the naming as simply php.next (branch included) or using basic code names is the way to go. This should stop people getting confused in the future if a branch doesn't make it to release (no version number), or people decide to write about it (obvious that it's not release). Just another 2 cents. In the mean time as Pierre says, there's still time better spent noting down ideas for php.next. Cheers. Jonny. --089e01227abc64a49f04f6207e15--