Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:73548 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 18106 invoked from network); 3 Apr 2014 05:40:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Apr 2014 05:40:21 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=endijs@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=endijs@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.217.169 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: endijs@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.217.169 mail-lb0-f169.google.com Received: from [209.85.217.169] ([209.85.217.169:38655] helo=mail-lb0-f169.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id AD/10-15417-244FC335 for ; Thu, 03 Apr 2014 00:40:19 -0500 Received: by mail-lb0-f169.google.com with SMTP id q8so927762lbi.14 for ; Wed, 02 Apr 2014 22:40:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type; bh=g4MY1ErBgxE5OBPgNqBNqAcInsPE2zqyjQ1f51RKV2Y=; b=xpXgikydsh+cfX5epInk3vPCAUMofiAU2IvgqSQzmyRWBOSCCZnNnfaXixeK4Okc12 UF5u2gfJnar5QfkLoANJT7dXHTL+mv8SpG34rgUOGMj8ZW7eSDVCGMUy5DDOqVNK6Qm5 7FbUeeny/TTtM6V4S0UDupfbr9c+W/+hFUDjwP6OuIqnsITSzMSNcXa9QYSRcubq+nt/ QAbZpGvylulrILbMIYtSntKi64YVWzxxZA3Mf+tjKfcAWolad0XRkpRDPYolj2p5wXuV ZR8ZvAV9hGZ3HyYBj3OTujGv9oEMvKOnEAQOme60SNyQpO3E2XNHzUzzy3jaGGp54891 AISw== X-Received: by 10.112.163.69 with SMTP id yg5mr3047748lbb.14.1396503615548; Wed, 02 Apr 2014 22:40:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [91.105.125.190] ([91.105.125.190]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id f9sm3871580laa.8.2014.04.02.22.40.14 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 02 Apr 2014 22:40:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <533CF43E.4060600@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2014 08:40:14 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: internals@lists.php.net References: <533C0713.9070106@eliw.com> <1FBF3DEA-B8F6-4064-A2B3-2FA68D2A9F07@gmail.com> <4BE0BD29-5815-4F14-9D89-E8D2DD2737BF@seancoates.com> <533C582F.1030509@eliw.com> In-Reply-To: <533C582F.1030509@eliw.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------060200080205040804050003" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] About PHP6 ... From: endijs@gmail.com (Endijs Lisovskis) --------------060200080205040804050003 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MariaDB jumped from 5.5 directly to version 10 and as far as I know no one is confused. PHP is not the same thing, however skipping a number is not such a big deal. Plus it will take ages for anyone to really start using PHP Next (be it 6 or 7). By that time everyone will know that 10 years old books are not the ones you would like to learn from. As far as I see it, PHP 6 was failed experiment. However PHP 7 could be shiny thing that makes real difference in our lives. I know that i'm not from Internals and I do not get any saying in this. However I'm "regular developer" and maybe you are interested in opinion of such people too. After all, if you do not know what to do - ask. Put voting in php.net and ask *people* what they want and what they think. Will they be confused? Will they not? Is 6 or 7 better? Communicate. On 2014.04.02. 21:34, Eli wrote: > On 4/2/14, 1:44 PM, Sean Coates wrote: >>> IMHO, we should try to fix PHP's version numbering based on others' >>> problems. >>> When people try to outsmart others, they may also suffer on >>> consequences of >>> things not going the way they plan/want. >>> >>> +1 on PHP6. >> >> It's not about trying to teach the authors (and their publishers) a >> lesson by consequence. >> It's about trying to help those who are (and will continue to be) >> confused by that mess. >> >> FWIW (if it even matters), I'm +1 on shipping "PHP 6" off to >> Uzbekistan, and calling the next major version PHP 7. > > Well said Sean, and exactly on point. It's about specifically helping > out those that are going to be otherwise confused. And it's a > zero-pain thing for us to do. It's just a number to us. > > Eli > > -- > | Eli White |http://eliw.com/ | Twitter: EliW | -- Endijs Lisovskis Mob.: +371-29377478 Email: endijs@gmail.com Blog: http://endijs.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/endijs Google+ : http://ongplus.com/endijs --------------060200080205040804050003--