Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:73547 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 14076 invoked from network); 3 Apr 2014 04:33:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Apr 2014 04:33:51 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=kris.craig@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=kris.craig@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.214.179 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: kris.craig@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.214.179 mail-ob0-f179.google.com Received: from [209.85.214.179] ([209.85.214.179:41768] helo=mail-ob0-f179.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 56/13-30414-DA4EC335 for ; Wed, 02 Apr 2014 23:33:50 -0500 Received: by mail-ob0-f179.google.com with SMTP id va2so1400453obc.10 for ; Wed, 02 Apr 2014 21:33:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=eCdv8iqy62p4ih7MFNthhrQcVKGxpRNAtyjxvKAFD1I=; b=MlCFfMdrC3AdzGEXXgv3ML6undQLC0BLxFgC2ekJgqjuh73PEe3i7pHpZAe4sw7dLI E4j44VDWI0ne1Lwed5xKORjG0rn8GTvMXtPdYzaFrM/nYqKW5MPpvkFo9K2GdtgONFP1 0zTrc4e5oB3W6FfPrh7CxGdKZ3MRVF7eb0tpfulBtwOMPrjWyeaG33rAgMiiv9NlvipG KIpsGp1fsg3aIx/S82zm63hn/pIQCZagExTPBE4C7SS/1/CeKYkDUlcCkZHjocvdtA2h ROFkdd8vDjgQkUL4iIXHt28crl7bZ3LYPan5RbsnC5UaNYzhAwjiXJ/KhOe6tOaFpW7A kExw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.16.103 with SMTP id f7mr4529108oed.8.1396499626784; Wed, 02 Apr 2014 21:33:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.231.230 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Apr 2014 21:33:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <533C0713.9070106@eliw.com> <533C6E5F.4020702@eliw.com> <533C7DB1.5020401@lsces.co.uk> Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2014 21:33:46 -0700 Message-ID: To: Adam Jon Richardson Cc: PHP internals list Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0149c04e2efecc04f61be823 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] About PHP6 ... From: kris.craig@gmail.com (Kris Craig) --089e0149c04e2efecc04f61be823 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 9:26 PM, Adam Jon Richardson wrote: > On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 9:51 PM, Kris Craig wrote: > > We shouldn't skip an entire version increment just because a few authors > > screwed-up. I don't know a single person who refers to any part of the > 5.x > > branch as PHP 6, nor have I heard a single developer complain that there > > will be confusion when PHP 6 is released. Skipping the version increment > > would be a solution in search of a problem and would only serve to cause > > more confusion. > > Getting back to your points: > > - You said "a few authors screwed-up." I think we can both agree that > there are many websites that have information about the now-defunct > branch of PHP 6. Try revising the search to "php 6" + unicode, > filtering out results based on url, etc. Now, you may go on to say > that the existence of this information shouldn't be a reason to > abandon the naming convention. Perhaps. But, I would confidently argue > that the number of conflicting resources will not be "few." > Well now we're arguing semantics. Seeing as how you have to include these filters and the results only make-up a tiny fraction of the total-- combined with the fact that those results are all from more than half a decade ago-- I think the word "few" is generous. > > - You said you've not hear a single developer complain that there will > be confusion. I believe you've heard a few on this very list :) > Yes, and only on this very list. Nowhere else. OP mentioned it being a hot topic at conferences and I'm just saying that that has not been my experience at all. In fact, this is the first I've heard anyone complain of the coming PHP 6 release somehow being confused with 5.x because of a few mistitled books from the previous decade. I certainly don't think it's worth all the confusion that would result from skipping an entire major version increment. --Kris --089e0149c04e2efecc04f61be823--