Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:73540 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 99232 invoked from network); 3 Apr 2014 01:51:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Apr 2014 01:51:20 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=kris.craig@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=kris.craig@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.214.171 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: kris.craig@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.214.171 mail-ob0-f171.google.com Received: from [209.85.214.171] ([209.85.214.171:35482] helo=mail-ob0-f171.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 6A/30-30414-39EBC335 for ; Wed, 02 Apr 2014 20:51:15 -0500 Received: by mail-ob0-f171.google.com with SMTP id wn1so1258401obc.30 for ; Wed, 02 Apr 2014 18:51:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=U5y0HIy0lUb9hEUXxAmFHbn0oIOsQUAllWA4abQaky4=; b=KnkaRtAOeJpoyp4WFLzIYNe8QPnTvknHrdricbbI4SUeWMnfFJFaQkc1/o/zYnWhf1 9atKm5pvloR/6UJQdAvs3VqN6AKBxqjJv7ImFInpcEE6tX1cIOgRtZdOhMgMFrWSYyCn H5zSg+LZ6xbMUepNH5tViDXgxl+VwpuGhSxf0GcCPPgWauNtmPqASq7NrE9yuipYaVkI 5aAL6R6PCQlI7M5OR9PpOnAr1bcPW1d6/nUWMt72QfQw9S4E8xEaCqQ/JpcNJEniD/TK Y6e0kjGC9+sM6Vk1OgFko+F1SVE7fv5IJ0uArgBV47uk+2Q1IAlm2DEaZfRw6lztM+xs PCcQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.115.129 with SMTP id jo1mr3440111oeb.0.1396489872712; Wed, 02 Apr 2014 18:51:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.231.230 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Apr 2014 18:51:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <533C7DB1.5020401@lsces.co.uk> References: <533C0713.9070106@eliw.com> <533C6E5F.4020702@eliw.com> <533C7DB1.5020401@lsces.co.uk> Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2014 18:51:12 -0700 Message-ID: To: Lester Caine Cc: PHP internals list Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e011619b6cbad0a04f619a26c Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] About PHP6 ... From: kris.craig@gmail.com (Kris Craig) --089e011619b6cbad0a04f619a26c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Lester Caine wrote: > Kalle, thanks for responding. I believe however you missed the part in my >> original message where I pointed out that in fact a large number of these >> books >> are still in print. And no 'campaign' from us is going to stop a >> publisher from >> continuing to sell a book they've already invested in, which costs them >> nothing >> to continue to sell. >> > > http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_0_4?url=search- > alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=php6&sprefix=php6 I think is the most > compelling case for skipping '6'. > > Look at the confusion still being created on google by 'mozilla firebird' > despite the fact the names was changed to firefox 10 years ago. It was only > used for a short time. PHP6 discussions have gone on for the last 10 years. > > I don't think anybody will be confused as to why PHP6 was not released > since it's a simple fact that the planned development path simply did not > work. PHP7 allows a clean sheet and nobody will be confused by currently > 770 thousands hits on google and 419 thousand on bing hits on 'PHP6'. > > What the ... try a search on PHP7 :( > > -- > Lester Caine - G8HFL > ----------------------------- > Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact > L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk > EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ > Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk > Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk > > > I don't think there will be any significant amount of confusion over PHP 6 (I'm more confused about why you're dropping the space). In 1948, the Chicago Tribune infamously went to print with the erroneous headline, "Dewey Defeats Truman". That led to a lot of confusion, too-- that is, at first. Numerous other publications made the same mistake. The Journal of Commerce, for example, published 8 articles in its November 3 edition about what to expect from President Dewey. The paper's headline read, "Dewey Victory Seen as Mandate to Open New Era of Government-Business Harmony, Public Confidence". I guess headlines were more verbose back then. There's little to no confusion over what the outcome was today. We certainly don't list Thomas E. Dewey as the 34th President of the United States just to avoid "confusion." We shouldn't skip an entire version increment just because a few authors screwed-up. I don't know a single person who refers to any part of the 5.x branch as PHP 6, nor have I heard a single developer complain that there will be confusion when PHP 6 is released. Skipping the version increment would be a solution in search of a problem and would only serve to cause more confusion. --Kris -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > --089e011619b6cbad0a04f619a26c--