Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:73538 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 89042 invoked from network); 2 Apr 2014 21:06:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 Apr 2014 21:06:50 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=g.rossolini@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=g.rossolini@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.213.180 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: g.rossolini@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.213.180 mail-ig0-f180.google.com Received: from [209.85.213.180] ([209.85.213.180:48786] helo=mail-ig0-f180.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 96/42-11770-9EB7C335 for ; Wed, 02 Apr 2014 16:06:49 -0500 Received: by mail-ig0-f180.google.com with SMTP id c1so907505igq.1 for ; Wed, 02 Apr 2014 14:06:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=tC6c4pP1ijFY81XBfbAz+AXUwlzxvAFO/vXCDyle61E=; b=lLndYxOnSGt2fAjF3ClFnYxKjD17MkzjwiUdH5mDn5aYFULfdYKLfUPoFdPZYF4Bfe hbDa933us5d4zfIhUP3SILBHg3cjmtfQaF8j7gX/ZDDTBvgdCz6hEXzTxiH1gkv1UjAD /ocGyqrili2Iw01osFKD4WsD8CgVq7LzFXxH+6To31LX7XTSUJeZil3PYOPk0HKX6frz ZfIFRWIsbHIXMLPnZR3tIVKoEpJwloQWAN+/FbQcwANXuamD9zX1DYahg7B22q3jrcfZ CMvbrYJ9VkiiN8XlRN0KsEoc7adM8TgpxABoi1IXo3GzAYV6wr1rMY9rGJaD4S5kaP26 z/uw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.28.101 with SMTP id a5mr11592024igh.46.1396472806999; Wed, 02 Apr 2014 14:06:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.7.242 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Apr 2014 14:06:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <533C0713.9070106@eliw.com> <533C6E5F.4020702@eliw.com> Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2014 23:06:46 +0200 Message-ID: To: Nikita Popov Cc: Eli , Kalle Sommer Nielsen , Internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0158aa2c998e5d04f615a973 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] About PHP6 ... From: g.rossolini@gmail.com (Guillaume Rossolini) --089e0158aa2c998e5d04f615a973 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 10:29 PM, Nikita Popov wrote: > > They will not sit equally. If someone buys a PHP 6 book and finds out that > half the code in there doesn't actually work on PHP 6, it's going to get a > 1 star review on Amazon and the issue takes care of itself. > Hi everyone, As part of the writing part of the community, I would much rather have a PHP 7 than a "revised PHP 6" version. Speak of article maintenance... And like Eli said, there actually is a PHP6 already: it's a dead branch. Just flag it on the php.net website, maybe in the downloads section and the docs with a nice announcement link, and everyone will be happy. As a reader, I wouldn't expect any PHP 6 material to be outdated (should I find it by chance, or should I look for it). And why would I automatically jump on a PHP 6 book to learn PHP 7? Also, that next version is still to come and authors still have time to properly write on this next version. These books have time to get famous, etc. Not to mention online articles. As for the reviews of existing books, might I suggest you take a look at some of them? They have had much time to get lots of stars, and I am not convinced that ratings are negatively affected by age (maybe even the reverse?). Now, why is this so much of a deal? As Eli rightly pointed out, that's not a big deal for the core dev community (you) and for the writers out there. However, it would avoid much campaigning and confusion, neither of which I am convinced can solve anything or be solved. Best regards, -- Guillaume Rossolini --089e0158aa2c998e5d04f615a973--