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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] About PHP6 ...
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On 4/2/14, 3:50 PM, Kalle Sommer Nielsen wrote:
>  and since PHP6 was due many years ago, I doubt many of those books
> still are in print and how many books could there be around still, I
> get that someone would feel angry over buying a book about features
> available in a non existing version, but that should be on the authors
> behalf, not ours while I realise this will hurt us a little

Kalle, thanks for responding.  I believe however you missed the part in
my original message where I pointed out that in fact a large number of
these books are still in print.  And no 'campaign' from us is going to
stop a publisher from continuing to sell a book they've already invested
in, which costs them nothing to continue to sell.

And once other books are out, they will sit equally.

And you mention the author's, but realize that the issue isn't the
author's.  Usually it's the publisher who is deciding the final name of
a book.  Many well known authors/community members even got caught by
this, such as Timothy Boronczyk, Elizabeth Naramore, and Larry Ullman.

To that end, it's not that we should be caring about 'who anger is
directed at'.  That's not the point.   The point is that by a simple
renaming, we can stop any confusion caused by these old books.  We can
make new accurate books stand out in the crowd.  And we can avoid, not
anger, but people getting frustrated and blaming 'PHP' as the cause, and
leaving for something else.

A small decision here, with zero pain (it's just a number).  Can quickly
aleve future pain for people.

Eli

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    On 4/2/14, 3:50 PM, Kalle Sommer Nielsen wrote:<br>
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      type=3D"cite">=C2=A0and since PHP6 was due many years ago, I doubt =
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      of those books still are in print and how many books could there
      be
      around still, I get that someone would feel angry over buying a
      book
      about features available in a non existing version, but that
      should be
      on the authors behalf, not ours while I realise this will hurt us
      a
      little</blockquote>
    <br>
    Kalle, thanks for responding.=C2=A0 I believe however you missed the =
part
    in my original message where I pointed out that in fact a large
    number of these books are still in print.=C2=A0 And no 'campaign' fro=
m us
    is going to stop a publisher from continuing to sell a book they've
    already invested in, which costs them nothing to continue to sell.<br=
>
    <br>
    And once other books are out, they will sit equally.<br>
    <br>
    And you mention the author's, but realize that the issue isn't the
    author's.=C2=A0 Usually it's the publisher who is deciding the final =
name
    of a book.=C2=A0 Many well known authors/community members even got
    caught by this, such as
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    Timothy Boronczyk, Elizabeth Naramore, and Larry Ullman.<br>
    <br>
    To that end, it's not that we should be caring about 'who anger is
    directed at'.=C2=A0 That's not the point.=C2=A0=C2=A0 The point is th=
at by a simple
    renaming, we can stop any confusion caused by these old books.=C2=A0 =
We
    can make new accurate books stand out in the crowd.=C2=A0 And we can
    avoid, not anger, but people getting frustrated and blaming 'PHP' as
    the cause, and leaving for something else.<br>
    <br>
    A small decision here, with zero pain (it's just a number).=C2=A0 Can=

    quickly aleve future pain for people.<br>
    <br>
    Eli<br>
    <br>
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