Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:73508 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 3578 invoked from network); 1 Apr 2014 23:49:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 1 Apr 2014 23:49:48 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=johannes@schlueters.de; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=johannes@schlueters.de; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain schlueters.de from 217.114.215.10 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: johannes@schlueters.de X-Host-Fingerprint: 217.114.215.10 mail.experimentalworks.net Received: from [217.114.215.10] ([217.114.215.10:33653] helo=mail.experimentalworks.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 88/79-50797-C905B335 for ; Tue, 01 Apr 2014 18:49:48 -0500 Received: from [192.168.2.31] (ppp-188-174-33-44.dynamic.mnet-online.de [188.174.33.44]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: johannes@schlueters.de) by mail.experimentalworks.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 236CF46628; Wed, 2 Apr 2014 01:50:34 +0200 (CEST) To: musicdenotation@gmail.com Cc: "internals@lists.php.net" In-Reply-To: <1396393440.2982.233.camel@guybrush> References: <1B2B9909-6710-45AE-ABAE-C5CDF9161D0F@gmail.com> <1396393440.2982.233.camel@guybrush> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2014 01:49:16 +0200 Message-ID: <1396396157.2982.255.camel@guybrush> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.30.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal for license change From: johannes@schlueters.de (Johannes =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Schl=FCter?=) Hi, please don't top post - makes it harder to follow the discussion. On Wed, 2014-04-02 at 06:11 +0700, musicdenotation@gmail.com wrote: > 1, 2, 3. Zend? Nope. (well 3 (funding) they could, if they want, which I don't know and don't care; if there would be interest in going through that bureaucracy this would be solvable ... but I don't see such interest in the contributors community, I know there wasn't some years ago, maybe that changed, while I have strong doubts) > 4, 5. GPL compatibility is for users to use PHP in a GPL-licensed > project, not for PHP developers to include GPL-licensed code in their > PHP project. This always goes both ways. And mind: Even if we would strike this out of the PHP License you couldn't use PHP in GPL software easily. see i.e. the spprintf case I mentioned, or other places (see README.REDIST.BINS for a start) where we use foreign code. This would need to be replaced to become GPL-compatible. > 6. group@php.net may license the mark unconditionally for licensees to > achieve the same effect as "removing the clause". This becomes a complicated legal debate, especially while observing international copyright and related law. There is no formal copyright assignment. An interpretation is that currently code is donated under PHP License terms. Significant (or actually even any) changes might void that. johannes