Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:73461 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 48000 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2014 09:09:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 28 Mar 2014 09:09:53 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=narf@devilix.net; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=narf@devilix.net; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain devilix.net designates 209.85.160.181 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: narf@devilix.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.160.181 mail-yk0-f181.google.com Received: from [209.85.160.181] ([209.85.160.181:56903] helo=mail-yk0-f181.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 04/62-31219-F5C35335 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 2014 04:09:53 -0500 Received: by mail-yk0-f181.google.com with SMTP id 131so480266ykp.40 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 2014 02:09:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=devilix.net; s=google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=XtMW6qR1jlyDN5j9E12jplkikhgSAI8b/iDJ0s2GYNI=; b=oMLm7AizyA5kC11o7DASTK+2/iruoE/yT+Ve3D4O1sTCEhVdnorHMnS5nvS+Tjjxiy L/Kfi2p0nFZ4T5fH9fM85Jd3I7z6uWKCtjL39GENkaDhp8ZMNitPXc5Beg/MoyQtnpfd Q+e93KKDhuL0D0X1crIbcv/MFN8OykFJHj8pY= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=XtMW6qR1jlyDN5j9E12jplkikhgSAI8b/iDJ0s2GYNI=; b=c6S2Jbd1T2a5QWd2hEC0wJ6JeKNY0YcMur0YrIu9mgdInJ6AZoxCr1cFtOdg9mc8KZ a24QJJUYO07+bSMsz4iPT0nGjLTq51YVy7L0T3ROdlrCLp0lULXNr6nmT0b7GqNcuhHD cqW6CFpdSVldRQ/plselHNROI6JrnR77DkTsQ+fOgYVaeZ07mJp9D4K++uLMPZ0F2sop flh8GTkE99lZ9mWZ9BCQo4NSEv2Xak4631j3cMt1O0LDCNStUd89s1MQuMnPZunlKFOG Z9tAOCsl5gOlbkBAquPXB1+i6UuzPd7YpQcItIVmulAF19p+h1IPCukJoL6N/QQZDm/T SImw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQki6JoeN0XVWHxppR/Sw0+RbY4ONraLYIEzVdREcHrVJ8toDnBD6m1vL3cAz94XNs9U8Nd1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.236.92.210 with SMTP id j58mr9797612yhf.5.1395997789245; Fri, 28 Mar 2014 02:09:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.170.188.139 with HTTP; Fri, 28 Mar 2014 02:09:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <010e01cf4788$05f3c5a0$11db50e0$@devtemple.com> <01c801cf47c0$59acbf20$0d063d60$@devtemple.com> Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2014 11:09:49 +0200 Message-ID: To: Yasuo Ohgaki Cc: Julien Pauli , Bill Salak , "internals@lists.php.net" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] session_start(), read_only, lazy_write; Take 2 From: narf@devilix.net (Andrey Andreev) Hi, On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: > Hi Andrey, > > On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 8:15 PM, Andrey Andreev wrote: >> >> Btw, another argument in merging updateTimestamp() into write() is >> that userland implementations of it up until now have only been >> possible by altering write(), so at least some users should be more >> familiar with that approach. > > > Component only does its jobs with good implementation. > Session module consists of session manager, session save handler and session > serializer. > > Session manager should manage how it works. > Session save handler should save/retrieve session data only. > Session serializer should serialize/unserialize data only. > > It breaks this design with your suggestion. > So letting save handler do the manager's job is not good. IMO. I don't understand how that's breaking any kind of design. Could you elaborate? Cheers, Andrey.