Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:73447 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 36513 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2014 22:59:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 26 Mar 2014 22:59:10 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=nilsandre@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=nilsandre@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.128.178 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: nilsandre@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.128.178 mail-ve0-f178.google.com Received: from [209.85.128.178] ([209.85.128.178:53691] helo=mail-ve0-f178.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 53/41-24797-CBB53335 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 2014 17:59:09 -0500 Received: by mail-ve0-f178.google.com with SMTP id jw12so3101432veb.23 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 2014 15:59:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=GmCi62oA53LZ815IcyGU8q/tHfS2Qp37V25j+fzcIfM=; b=MEsCmg4udcTGYxdwA7mwwU7g8BHX4Iwvl0VQrHJoohcm09xsk2TfY35IvWkDcDmOfq tLZcYt80GzpbDthffVHfMT5Y6R1eQWzk+WHphE1kYmcyrBRdMSY3cfV7FGAwwyCVfqou AFuXqUbrl2GE7d/+uX4mVSA2yBADwmh6Q7/Bx7qzPR/mdazGLrOAYGhcCd3zheD/RMmp lMYk1xz0WGPgIA4IVyOw8a05jZy2e8v2uMh3vl/KuS3wnsPoLmWop2KuJvvo9YOw55W3 3aR2Y51v1B7ZysHGJesjrrtHS/Hh9uuuYoEeZW8So9cZP3MlT6rq2HcllCBmWmx2zXRy QF9A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.221.40.10 with SMTP id to10mr13251727vcb.22.1395874744268; Wed, 26 Mar 2014 15:59:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.68.232 with HTTP; Wed, 26 Mar 2014 15:59:04 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: nilsandre@gmx.de In-Reply-To: References: <532FF7B9.5040700@hoa-project.net> Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 23:59:04 +0100 Message-ID: To: Andrea Faulds Cc: "Ivan Enderlin @ Hoa" , internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP Specification From: nilsandre@gmail.com (Nils Andre) Hi Guys, > I agree, I think PHP needs a specification. For one thing, a reference implementation is no real specification. It can't be easily consulted, and it also means that any reference implementation bug might be considered a language feature [...] There are so many bugs which are actually considered features by so many people of this list. But actually, I'd really love you guys specify the tons of examples of really weird behaviour found here: http://www.phpwtf.org/ That should be a good read for everyone who thinks that PHP is just fine and does not need a fundamental redesign. Just my two cents, Nils