Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:73389 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 30281 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2014 19:36:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 24 Mar 2014 19:36:06 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=klaussilveira@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=klaussilveira@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.192.48 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: klaussilveira@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.192.48 mail-qg0-f48.google.com Received: from [209.85.192.48] ([209.85.192.48:33887] helo=mail-qg0-f48.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id EA/D4-02253-E5380335 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 14:11:26 -0500 Received: by mail-qg0-f48.google.com with SMTP id j107so17908721qga.7 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 12:11:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=xmK5uaohafGQOUeO0iLCLRxGtCeT4NBY3/1L4ILncpI=; b=nyCl+2HK7q3QoY9Cud0PYNvzuiNLkXCyfKEtjCX3ctxE4N9k9GkRgbP5TY4pxRVVEc bJcIFgang+fSdVXHIVG6+GZSzXKyi/mu3IS+PCDs9aNvSAHsWIM4BAg77OnuqEjpp46L XrSS4znffU6IAqVVMNZORPmtHCJfF1m9EGYgiXY5OEitXxgktagEuzCJdXB7J2CX11Uj 33tCKD6DBsE/cWygNFtpCqcY3Ct9QX5JONPPUP4k+8+vkfCQX/+MybcdsyYKx0V8qPKS +hUuMbSJWlTDhrS/lFNet3gyaJSiNGIU5W+IJTijJkkfSdexaeJCOyUMGZ11xXwQWVeA jBXQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.140.30.98 with SMTP id c89mr72858045qgc.13.1395688283363; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 12:11:23 -0700 (PDT) Sender: klaussilveira@gmail.com Received: by 10.96.110.168 with HTTP; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 12:11:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1395687453.9365.545.camel@guybrush> References: <532FF7B9.5040700@hoa-project.net> <533059A8.1010105@hoa-project.net> <1395687453.9365.545.camel@guybrush> Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 16:11:23 -0300 X-Google-Sender-Auth: RApf7NIj2aaIMzUzWvMB4NuSkY8 Message-ID: To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Johannes_Schl=FCter?= Cc: Pierre Joye , "Ivan Enderlin @ Hoa" , PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1139f96458faab04f55f00aa Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP Specification From: contact@klaussilveira.com (Klaus Silveira) --001a1139f96458faab04f55f00aa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wouldn't it make sense to have something like PHP-FIG, but focused on creating a language specification on top of the current reference implementation? On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 3:57 PM, Johannes Schl=FCter wrote: > On Mon, 2014-03-24 at 18:52 +0100, Pierre Joye wrote: > > > [5] http://hippyvm.com/blog#introducing-hippyvm > > > > Interesting :) > > > > While it is surely much faster than stock php, I am not sure their > > benchmark against hhvm is correct, especially as they do not have a > > web module ready, meaning that benchs are ran only once. hhvm uses a > > profiler and JIT only comes into the game later in the php lifetime, > > many requests may be necessary to get full optimization. > > > > One bad point is that they are very likely go half open and > > proprietary, I do not see a business coming out of that but a little > > niche. Maybe that'll be enough for their needs. > > Not that they are alone in the commercial field: > https://github.com/symisc/PH7 > > btw. a relevant question is whether they actually want to be 100% > compatible, for many purposes a close approximation of the language is > enough. ("simple scripting language for embedding somewhere which people > may learn quickly") > > johannes > > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > --=20 Klaus Silveira (011) 8564-2492 www.klaussilveira.com --001a1139f96458faab04f55f00aa--