Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:73387 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 26878 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2014 18:58:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 24 Mar 2014 18:58:01 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=johannes@schlueters.de; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=johannes@schlueters.de; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain schlueters.de from 217.114.215.10 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: johannes@schlueters.de X-Host-Fingerprint: 217.114.215.10 mail.experimentalworks.net Received: from [217.114.215.10] ([217.114.215.10:49279] helo=mail.experimentalworks.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id D0/54-02253-83080335 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 13:58:01 -0500 Received: from [192.168.2.31] (ppp-188-174-53-226.dynamic.mnet-online.de [188.174.53.226]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: johannes@schlueters.de) by mail.experimentalworks.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E99774302B; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 19:58:44 +0100 (CET) To: Pierre Joye Cc: "Ivan Enderlin @ Hoa" , PHP internals In-Reply-To: References: <532FF7B9.5040700@hoa-project.net> <533059A8.1010105@hoa-project.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 19:57:33 +0100 Message-ID: <1395687453.9365.545.camel@guybrush> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.30.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP Specification From: johannes@schlueters.de (Johannes =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Schl=FCter?=) On Mon, 2014-03-24 at 18:52 +0100, Pierre Joye wrote: > > [5] http://hippyvm.com/blog#introducing-hippyvm > > Interesting :) > > While it is surely much faster than stock php, I am not sure their > benchmark against hhvm is correct, especially as they do not have a > web module ready, meaning that benchs are ran only once. hhvm uses a > profiler and JIT only comes into the game later in the php lifetime, > many requests may be necessary to get full optimization. > > One bad point is that they are very likely go half open and > proprietary, I do not see a business coming out of that but a little > niche. Maybe that'll be enough for their needs. Not that they are alone in the commercial field: https://github.com/symisc/PH7 btw. a relevant question is whether they actually want to be 100% compatible, for many purposes a close approximation of the language is enough. ("simple scripting language for embedding somewhere which people may learn quickly") johannes