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Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 11:21:42 +0100
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP Specification
From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye)

Hi Johannes,

On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Johannes Schl=C3=BCter
<johannes@schlueters.de> wrote:
> On Mon, 2014-03-24 at 10:55 +0100, Pierre Joye wrote:
>> On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Johannes Schl=C3=BCter
>> <johannes@schlueters.de> wrote:
>>
>> > In my opinion it is a good thing that PHP is powerful enough to enable
>> > frameworks etc. to innovate around the core language. The core languag=
e
>> > has to be a reliable and stable.
>>
>> Agreed, but I was not clear. I refer to core features like what we can
>> find in hhvm, hack, more recently the JVM compiler or similar
>> projects. Many features which have nothing to do with the engine they
>> use should have been available in the core since long.
>
> If anybody (being a contributor to a clone or some "user") sees anything
> in any implementation that they want to be part of PHP they can under
> the RFC process.
>
> If anybody thinks there is need for a specification they can start
> writing it and look for help and review.
>
> Statements that something "should" be done by "somebody" won't work in a
> volunteer project.
>
> With that this discussion is finished for me. If anybody wants to
> reiterate this we can do this off list, not taking time from others with
> a meta discussion giving no results.

Good so as it makes no sense to get into a rhetorical battle, none of
us needs it and I think you pretty much understood what I meant by
"should be done" or about the lack of participation of older
developers in discussions, but blocking things at the voting phase.

--=20
Pierre

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