Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:73375 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 84832 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2014 10:05:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 24 Mar 2014 10:05:01 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=johannes@schlueters.de; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=johannes@schlueters.de; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain schlueters.de from 217.114.215.10 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: johannes@schlueters.de X-Host-Fingerprint: 217.114.215.10 mail.experimentalworks.net Received: from [217.114.215.10] ([217.114.215.10:48626] helo=mail.experimentalworks.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id CE/B3-63501-C4300335 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 05:05:00 -0500 Received: from [192.168.2.31] (ppp-188-174-53-226.dynamic.mnet-online.de [188.174.53.226]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: johannes@schlueters.de) by mail.experimentalworks.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3724B4302B; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 11:05:44 +0100 (CET) To: Pierre Joye Cc: "Ivan Enderlin @ Hoa" , internals In-Reply-To: References: <532FF7B9.5040700@hoa-project.net> <1395653827.9365.9.camel@guybrush> <1395654744.9365.17.camel@guybrush> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 11:04:34 +0100 Message-ID: <1395655474.9365.25.camel@guybrush> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.30.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP Specification From: johannes@schlueters.de (Johannes =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Schl=FCter?=) On Mon, 2014-03-24 at 10:55 +0100, Pierre Joye wrote: > On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Johannes Schlüter > wrote: > > > In my opinion it is a good thing that PHP is powerful enough to enable > > frameworks etc. to innovate around the core language. The core language > > has to be a reliable and stable. > > Agreed, but I was not clear. I refer to core features like what we can > find in hhvm, hack, more recently the JVM compiler or similar > projects. Many features which have nothing to do with the engine they > use should have been available in the core since long. If anybody (being a contributor to a clone or some "user") sees anything in any implementation that they want to be part of PHP they can under the RFC process. If anybody thinks there is need for a specification they can start writing it and look for help and review. Statements that something "should" be done by "somebody" won't work in a volunteer project. With that this discussion is finished for me. If anybody wants to reiterate this we can do this off list, not taking time from others with a meta discussion giving no results. johannes