Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:73079 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 33580 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2014 11:14:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Mar 2014 11:14:24 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=cryptocompress@googlemail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=cryptocompress@googlemail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain googlemail.com designates 209.85.214.43 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: cryptocompress@googlemail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.214.43 mail-bk0-f43.google.com Received: from [209.85.214.43] ([209.85.214.43:65423] helo=mail-bk0-f43.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 09/03-17005-09140235 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2014 06:14:24 -0500 Received: by mail-bk0-f43.google.com with SMTP id v15so1410186bkz.30 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2014 04:14:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=pAuSfzO0tpmfADA8r57ACH3o1T8AX2tVKg1Vm1xW8PE=; b=N/BDCP2mjz3AfEAhoj8Wsl2nogp+01B5JW6w49b8M/tCi9FpqZGjzsUfg3TFHPIP3E q4xjx59j9j9gr9C5Vi/MxBeY/apl05C54cxPpUvF7bSCP+lu77ME2/+NCDreMgp0J5mo yq+cykj/2L/06Aps8u30+nn/DeIGyQ49swJBDQq0SyJeRAGWW70nwn51QVGebT9FLKfi 9VZAKDl6h0QNJXhnRNFSgZ6WWt+bhEQru7MshIn5CmQdNqVE28+9foCsr3Hf+pwmbyce TQLWGrMAdBdsL2RryghgUiyD9GyvSg7Aeoi+Qpj4JV4Fiavv2uRWxPzuf8kNKfuZnVFt A+Dg== X-Received: by 10.205.12.199 with SMTP id pj7mr1466bkb.120.1394622861551; Wed, 12 Mar 2014 04:14:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.115] (mnch-5d854468.pool.mediaWays.net. [93.133.68.104]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id zf3sm17996515bkb.4.2014.03.12.04.14.19 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 12 Mar 2014 04:14:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5320418A.4000600@googlemail.com> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 12:14:18 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pierre Joye , PHP Developers Mailing List References: <531EE602.3090207@lsces.co.uk> <531EEE2A.2000602@googlemail.com> <531F0146.5010701@lsces.co.uk> <53202DC5.4010306@googlemail.com> <532033E1.60602@lsces.co.uk> <53203687.7090405@googlemail.com> <532037F4.6020204@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Unicode strings? From: cryptocompress@googlemail.com (Crypto Compress) Am 12.03.2014 11:54, schrieb Pierre Joye: > Also I do not get your argument earlier in this discussion saying that > we should not implement objects or pseudo-objects for unicode support. > where is the problem? It can work with existing functions as well, > does not break BC, does not introduce weird syntax that prevents code > from running in 5.x and 6.x (u"foo" will f.e.). The more I look at it, > the more I think it is the way. Am 06.03.2014 08:56, schrieb Crypto Compress: > Would "type juggling" allow for autoboxing into a second string type > where needed (unicode-aware functions)? > No, we should not create an string-object to handle all intricacies of > unicode. I'm against heavyweight objects not "object" per se.