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Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2014 21:59:30 +0100
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP6 thoughts about Engine changes
From: nek.dev@gmail.com (Maxime Veber)

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Hello,

I totally love the ideas about BC and cleaning everything. That's what PHP
need and deserve.

Can you be more specific about what you want to change in "Cleanup API and
dead code" part ?

And na na, it's not only for an hypotetic php7 version. We change things or
we do not change !
After all, php move great with minor releases... !

If we want to change, let's to what have to be done *now* !


2014-03-05 19:06 GMT+01:00 Pierre Joye <pierre.php@gmail.com>:

> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 6:39 PM, Rasmus Lerdorf <rasmus@lerdorf.com> wrote:
> > On 3/5/14, 5:56 AM, Julien Pauli wrote:
> >> Hey,
> >>
> >> I wrote a wiki page about my thoughts for engine BC breaking changes
> >> in the next PHP5++ (PHP6 ?)
> >>
> >> As usual, those are actually just thoughts.
> >> Anyone may (should ?) improve the wiki page (keeping a readable
> >> structure) sharing his own knowledge and thoughts :-)
> >>
> >> Any debate for any (relevant) subject can start here.
> >>
> >> I think that PHP5.6 final release is a good starting point for first
> >> milestones and first ideas throught code.
> >>
> >> https://wiki.php.net/ideas/php6/engine
> >
> >  Note also that Unicode is not
> > even mentioned.
>
> Unicode has its own page and section, that's why.
>
> > The main failure of the previous PHP6 attempt wasn't actually the choice
> > of UTF-16 as some people like to claim,
>
> Right, but the main failure in Unicode support was UTF-16 (to clarify :).
>
> However you are right. I have the feeling that this list is very
> optimistic, but a couple of things should be considered (jit f.e. and
> APIs cleanup for example).
>
> Cheers,
> --
> Pierre
>
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