Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:72926 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 8374 invoked from network); 5 Mar 2014 18:06:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 5 Mar 2014 18:06:47 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.216.176 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.216.176 mail-qc0-f176.google.com Received: from [209.85.216.176] ([209.85.216.176:53100] helo=mail-qc0-f176.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 2A/C1-32928-6B767135 for ; Wed, 05 Mar 2014 13:06:47 -0500 Received: by mail-qc0-f176.google.com with SMTP id m20so1540357qcx.21 for ; Wed, 05 Mar 2014 10:06:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=nnGhzi4Xz6NNfFw9PE0oE33/cdmCXiQpOuuCWgeeGlQ=; b=kcBeGY5NsLxUnDzPZen9EgLO1/lG/EiJ3Ll6sz154A9C8d8aDMDApFCXXXIEgHk3Pw xGZTkypThnhBUnbHjXcYpyWls5n7NZSgkKsWqMArUh/4OCdb54NqiK81iRQkyDIs8Tzc kGfHawa+RciZzknr6C4hFtOMl4qhEw388h18Ff3g42TXHKKLiH87YnK95re888Y2LxPt CvOKPSnn1wOVvTy30ArOCquR+BEstCd839mqGl6S3Jn+2op2Hr2Hg16QfKmhxTT3SEsQ toK15sKUNTqtiSm5Uj94yIVG717ZxnMHoPfbaCdmaeMZw7MuWx3O/W7iN6Xa5zf2SlHk SjAg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.68.10 with SMTP id t10mr8486002qai.87.1394042803334; Wed, 05 Mar 2014 10:06:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.18.145 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Mar 2014 10:06:43 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <53176168.50305@lerdorf.com> References: <53176168.50305@lerdorf.com> Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2014 19:06:43 +0100 Message-ID: To: Rasmus Lerdorf Cc: Julien Pauli , PHP Internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP6 thoughts about Engine changes From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 6:39 PM, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: > On 3/5/14, 5:56 AM, Julien Pauli wrote: >> Hey, >> >> I wrote a wiki page about my thoughts for engine BC breaking changes >> in the next PHP5++ (PHP6 ?) >> >> As usual, those are actually just thoughts. >> Anyone may (should ?) improve the wiki page (keeping a readable >> structure) sharing his own knowledge and thoughts :-) >> >> Any debate for any (relevant) subject can start here. >> >> I think that PHP5.6 final release is a good starting point for first >> milestones and first ideas throught code. >> >> https://wiki.php.net/ideas/php6/engine > > Note also that Unicode is not > even mentioned. Unicode has its own page and section, that's why. > The main failure of the previous PHP6 attempt wasn't actually the choice > of UTF-16 as some people like to claim, Right, but the main failure in Unicode support was UTF-16 (to clarify :). However you are right. I have the feeling that this list is very optimistic, but a couple of things should be considered (jit f.e. and APIs cleanup for example). Cheers, -- Pierre @pierrejoye | http://www.libgd.org