Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:72872 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 90408 invoked from network); 28 Feb 2014 18:00:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 28 Feb 2014 18:00:31 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=adam@adamharvey.name; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=adam@adamharvey.name; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain adamharvey.name designates 209.85.223.169 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: adam@adamharvey.name X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.223.169 mail-ie0-f169.google.com Received: from [209.85.223.169] ([209.85.223.169:52445] helo=mail-ie0-f169.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id DC/35-64896-EBEC0135 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 2014 13:00:30 -0500 Received: by mail-ie0-f169.google.com with SMTP id at1so3801074iec.28 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 2014 10:00:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=adamharvey.name; s=google; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=LQTCSTUXD5GD2Bbub5ob98FP74Po92h+sUdheJHJ3L4=; b=bGz2+fB2WMpgfsFCcmeJQDzkhFkmblDGP4XKIaGkRvZPwmjBjZL2Ir1/qVF3n2VzaS AYhDCTH5T7y8uZ+fjIgxpQMk/kL0f7j25PIJMNTi3vcscFbsmEe5jUL6FmCa5KCkVRlR iIBFV39T3atrINfobuTaJmhPZKk8DVw04w4xI= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=LQTCSTUXD5GD2Bbub5ob98FP74Po92h+sUdheJHJ3L4=; b=f6hc+Kftsr37AOOuNZ8JX10S6exq3H8c3AI/v6yp5drrj/1Qm2TK/jvwlEMpojsmVa 7gv3qofeV2Q1QLjZWCUs7vzz9zsUAPh0Azf71EAwDCgwF54uUC9J/Zwye9JV5DOjgSc6 rejf82/b1rastW3OMjncqoeCymYmOAB9s/WkttPdauX6RQi9LwUl0CnlINipoul2MPEh /Zhc9SKrCZuVfrzAiRvHjUEuSjk22VkjGISfumXGPO9hrnEFurolNWysT/Vjk47pcF0a mgHYEZPdbZbWGZTs/QYilss/yuQdxFT0ZIHbnU/c5Rx9vEqRx4wmk5C5B78wSPWgyL2r FfoA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlxjYAWpJzdpmln2+jSj3lVzFPH1NFUIQzXj2KhkqLR5CdRaFfeQestindVISfa++RkUp0U X-Received: by 10.42.61.4 with SMTP id s4mr12576993ich.58.1393610427538; Fri, 28 Feb 2014 10:00:27 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: adam@adamharvey.name Received: by 10.42.206.208 with HTTP; Fri, 28 Feb 2014 10:00:07 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <37A9BBE2-1D9C-4715-9942-EF064476170F@ajf.me> References: <37A9BBE2-1D9C-4715-9942-EF064476170F@ajf.me> Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 10:00:07 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: VbeNJv9BeTMLjgNW2_NSkHq-qG4 Message-ID: To: Andrea Faulds Cc: Bob Weinand , Philip Sturgeon , PHP Internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE][RFC] Array Of From: aharvey@php.net (Adam Harvey) On 28 February 2014 09:45, Andrea Faulds wrote: > > On 28 Feb 2014, at 17:30, Bob Weinand wrote: >> I voted no now. >> >> a) This is something for PHP6 I feel (at least if the other RFCs were re= jected for similar reasons) >> b) We are so close to beta 5.6 now, I think we should stop introducing b= igger features which affect the language etc. now >> c) I'm not really sure if we want that feature=E2=80=A6 but that's anoth= er story... > > > I also voted against. I don=E2=80=99t like the [] syntax and PHP 5.6 is t= oo close. I was also -1, partly for those reasons, but also because I think we need to take some time (probably in a PHP 5++/6/7/whatever context and after 5.6 has been frozen) to figure out if we want generics and, if so, what form they would take syntactically. My guess is that they won't look anything like ClassName[], and I don't really want another weird syntax appendix that we have to maintain and document for a decade or more to come. Adam