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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] buildconf
From: sniper@iki.fi (Jani Taskinen)

On Thu, 22 Jan 2004, Patrick Welche wrote:

>On Thu, Jan 22, 2004 at 04:51:43PM +0200, Jani Taskinen wrote:
>> 
>>     There's nothing wrong in this. If your autoconf/aclocal/etc.
>>     tools are installed correctly, buildconf works fine.
>>     
>>     Please use the snapshots if you don't know what you're doing.
>
>:-) I have to smile otherwise I would be offended.

   =)

>> >Why does build/buildcheck.sh do the dance of copying the contents of
>> >libtool.m4 (whose location it guesses - wrongly in my case) into
>> >aclocal.m4, instead of letting libtoolize copy libtool.m4 over and
>> >automake pop it into aclocal.m4? This presumably would happen during
>> >make -f build/build2.mk if buildcheck gave it a chance..
>
>The above still stands. I would call your use of the autotools
>unorthodox.

    I hope you mean "PHP uses" since I have nothing do to with
    the way they're used. :)

    And I'm sure Sascha will gladly explain you WHY we use them
    like we do. (mainly because they suck in so many ways.. :)

>libtoolize would pop libtool.m4 either into . or the directory
>specified in AC_CONFIG_AUX_DIR. OK, you may wish to carry on using
>a really outdated autoconf which doesn't understand that, but at
>least letting libtoolize, which knows where to find the libtool.m4,
>copy it, and then look for it in . is not a bad thing. However, as
>you then just copy libtool.m4 into aclocal.m4, I don't see why you
>don't let the autotools just do if for you. It isn't as if you are
>altering libtool.m4's contents. 

    Actually we should be altering, the snapshots are generated
    using patched libtool.m4..and I think we should bundle it 
    and append THAT one..Sascha, what's your opinion?
    
    --Jani
    
    p.s. # cvs log -r1.29 build/build2.mk