Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:72593 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 12367 invoked from network); 14 Feb 2014 12:26:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 14 Feb 2014 12:26:18 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.216.177 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.216.177 mail-qc0-f177.google.com Received: from [209.85.216.177] ([209.85.216.177:50755] helo=mail-qc0-f177.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id C2/80-09381-96B0EF25 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 07:26:17 -0500 Received: by mail-qc0-f177.google.com with SMTP id i8so19690144qcq.36 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 04:26:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=On7e7Xo/4RaWjGxj9kDSaLPL1jFWZkgSTf6xN9Pd5ig=; b=d0/K74weSO7EEf6styNtJrRnuIdycfQNTJ5+pUkIZVDh5iWRzNkR8lJLBBqjOC7MDT ROym3svTZMs+EnuyV0u7jHUYYWthQAmyhsbKUFX87MSALD/oFNE/EtVhJY6cD8i+cF5P 62Z8/hyFm4UNGCpAP9an90jJYgEfu68qxCrUXdG4hidWOOKfKjUR7lcTpXmjqiXleQd/ 8AeM1fE1Q6HzsOn4q6Y9x/6t0mAz63N/FHvHdj20XVFh4uq1eDQykqxu4ZBPHX6vAltE y/B+TM12cTVS5G9ACH4s6p5niy4L0Jfn0o5SI4cdzzlhgqgBqALIV/OQKGu14Lo33unv CS2Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.104.8 with SMTP id m8mr12334671qao.87.1392380773592; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 04:26:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.18.145 with HTTP; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 04:26:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.18.145 with HTTP; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 04:26:13 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 13:26:13 +0100 Message-ID: To: Andrey Andreev Cc: PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1132ec0066f5ca04f25ce9a8 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] unify entropy source for all php related functions From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) --001a1132ec0066f5ca04f25ce9a8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Feb 14, 2014 7:03 PM, "Andrey Andreev" wrote: > ALL sources > say that /dev/urandom is both widely used and considered safe for > cryptography. Only a select few mention that it could be a bit weaker > in specific cases, in theory. No urandom (and similar) are not crypto safe. Totally not. They are however good enough for most usages but crypto safe related tasks like key generation and the likes. Any (good) paper mentions this. Cheers, Pierre --001a1132ec0066f5ca04f25ce9a8--