Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:72590 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 4723 invoked from network); 14 Feb 2014 10:59:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 14 Feb 2014 10:59:04 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=lester@lsces.co.uk; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=lester@lsces.co.uk; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain lsces.co.uk from 217.147.176.204 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: lester@lsces.co.uk X-Host-Fingerprint: 217.147.176.204 mail4.serversure.net Linux 2.6 Received: from [217.147.176.204] ([217.147.176.204:49421] helo=mail4.serversure.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id E9/D3-12906-5F6FDF25 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 05:59:03 -0500 Received: (qmail 24081 invoked by uid 89); 14 Feb 2014 10:58:52 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.3.1 ppid: 24053, pid: 24078, t: 0.0714s scanners: attach: 1.3.1 clamav: 0.96/m:52 Received: from unknown (HELO linux-dev4.lsces.org.uk) (lester@rainbowdigitalmedia.org.uk@81.138.11.136) by mail4.serversure.net with ESMTPA; 14 Feb 2014 10:58:52 -0000 Message-ID: <52FDF7BC.8050408@lsces.co.uk> Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 11:02:20 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:27.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/27.0 SeaMonkey/2.24 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: internals@lists.php.net References: <50100EC8.3040102@ajf.me> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP6 wiki page From: lester@lsces.co.uk (Lester Caine) Ferenc Kovacs wrote: >> >Is there a PHP 6 wiki page for co-ordinating development of and collecting >> >ideas for PHP6 development? >> > >> >There are a lot of idea being thrown around, would be nice if we had a >> >page (there might be one, but I can't find it). >> > > We had one for the last php6 attempt:https://wiki.php.net/todo/php60 but > we didn't started a new one about/after the recent '6.0 And Moving Forward' > thread. Yes I know this is an old thread, but it is probably indicative of the state of play? It was last modified in 2006! Is it worth going through the points there or would it be better simply starting with a clean piece of paper and leaving this as history? Yasuo has already brought up one of the unicode problems that will need to be addressed in the phar file name thread. But more fundamentally I don't think there was agreement on whether we simply standardise on unicode in the core, or allow a single byte mode? 8 years on, I feel that the amount of utf8 material that is floating around, the easiest route IS unicode only? Perhaps with a compiler switch to disable it if people want the option, rather than an ini setting? And I only use 127 character English :) but probably half the emails I'm processing have unicode of some sort these days? Certainly all of my websites require utf8 without any discussion. Even 64bit integers get a mention near the bottom! Although it is probably worth flagging that most higher end processors these days do have a 256bit integer capability! So while 128bit has been mentioned in recent posts, perhaps a little more in depth coverage is appropriate if PHP6 is going to be the base for the next 10 years? Many of the bullet points certainly need updating, but how many have actually already been addressed in PHP5.X? -- Lester Caine - G8HFL ----------------------------- Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk