Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:72534 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 94168 invoked from network); 12 Feb 2014 23:42:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Feb 2014 23:42:40 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=php@golemon.com; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=php@golemon.com; spf=softfail; sender-id=softfail Received-SPF: softfail (pb1.pair.com: domain golemon.com does not designate 209.85.160.41 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: php@golemon.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.160.41 mail-pb0-f41.google.com Received: from [209.85.160.41] ([209.85.160.41:44449] helo=mail-pb0-f41.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id A1/1E-19387-FE60CF25 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 2014 18:42:39 -0500 Received: by mail-pb0-f41.google.com with SMTP id up15so10003828pbc.28 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 2014 15:42:36 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=SXr0Aj0+L2dWFPMXwaIbLfQi3t5EsWOvbHQO3VHZmJY=; b=eM0HiwO/VcCuEtOi6kU6Xqs70fGptLuvRhT7QxBWbjCSqvTWsF77m4tyTPXRN0rHnb U/wlXOVCb4O4zC30xJCqE4yNZXN6Ttitgrk0l3w/A9Tk579zIwgtomxScTUfEhqdA7W7 PyX9UZdXRFdEyNIkwW/Vm/+OYQO4q9CDGElni9wM4fvg7BytR/QMXPsA08EleRtSgW7v O2XBcQrixiaqmBIFFLUS1YTQ29KRjF/LLoqqNx4s91kYj+aJdKQkNDwDCPJk3VCSWRSA cUsFul4AjoVlAtIo+dDomRY14UfV36pf81I16ZYxvk565zjDOx26f4mTodbO9DM1b7mf 9C5A== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQn3siC7Jd5AzWVjSPU60cLK4mCEJWthw5Bc+HqaGE5/1toSo0SyFzhwrBHNgz0Yr58pUX+m MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.66.248.227 with SMTP id yp3mr41800395pac.116.1392248556031; Wed, 12 Feb 2014 15:42:36 -0800 (PST) Sender: php@golemon.com Received: by 10.70.69.162 with HTTP; Wed, 12 Feb 2014 15:42:35 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [2620:0:1cfe:18:22c9:d0ff:fe87:295b] In-Reply-To: <52FBE7FD.3050003@gmail.com> References: <52F00437.7010903@googlemail.com> <52FA71FE.8060808@googlemail.com> <1392151967.3990.11.camel@guybrush> <52FA90B3.5040205@googlemail.com> <1392153156.3990.13.camel@guybrush> <52FA99C4.5080006@googlemail.com> <1392155891.3990.15.camel@guybrush> <52FA9FD3.6000008@googlemail.com> <52FBDC4D.9020302@googlemail.com> <52FBE7FD.3050003@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 15:42:35 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: mDjbWRrdx--Nk_lmSva2XjvwEkg Message-ID: To: Rowan Collins Cc: PHP internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [VOTE] __debugInfo() From: pollita@php.net (Sara Golemon) On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Rowan Collins wrote: > Crypto Compress wrote (on 12/02/2014): >> so there maybe output not present in the object at all. Great source of >> confusion. > > What if the object makes use of __get and __set, but in a systematic way? Is > it more "true" to represent it as having those virtual properties, or not > having them? > Extremely excellent point. I can think of a few classes I wrote at Yahoo which fall into that bucket. -Sara