Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:72465 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 7066 invoked from network); 11 Feb 2014 18:55:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 11 Feb 2014 18:55:18 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=cryptocompress@googlemail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=cryptocompress@googlemail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain googlemail.com designates 209.85.212.182 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: cryptocompress@googlemail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.212.182 mail-wi0-f182.google.com Received: from [209.85.212.182] ([209.85.212.182:50733] helo=mail-wi0-f182.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 10/69-62230-5127AF25 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 13:55:18 -0500 Received: by mail-wi0-f182.google.com with SMTP id f8so5057311wiw.15 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 10:55:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type; bh=T8Fs6IPhSnDFyNfM9tBXTGth6icPHFtJfWMKXXH7ZHc=; b=Gg+qx64XTDNa4O/l+KC4pR94l85VADMPZuhV25viKUQqiK+mxuyTK3SRe2OBdReUke 5Jyx/hyfugUn9lmQkQgfhd+CVxLCH36pls+ze56ACb0fuo3u2rqWyIbHz1pk0/wbsEPb dzunoEb+WUMeTin9r5nRwcAzgkuU3xYddPnNmyxUH/wqr8GnxIj3nKO7ByyJ3sRdVFg2 wuZXWZLOwHXT8FK3mSKkW1bY1JNBW/15Ivwfuik7WdfNighhpnzld+U3v04yyIJDGLCY yxSCQYx8c4nUuO12g1pDrV43n9zi0+hb30FSGbcNaGumZ9m20I/qQJOHS7f5G8TY+gg0 yX4Q== X-Received: by 10.180.24.227 with SMTP id x3mr15902573wif.41.1392144913708; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 10:55:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.115] (mnch-5d8774be.pool.mediaWays.net. [93.135.116.190]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id p1sm47837367wie.1.2014.02.11.10.55.11 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 11 Feb 2014 10:55:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <52FA71FE.8060808@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 19:54:54 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Derick Rethans , PHP Developers Mailing List References: <52F00437.7010903@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------030104000307090109040507" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [VOTE] __debugInfo() From: cryptocompress@googlemail.com (Crypto Compress) --------------030104000307090109040507 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > __ method names are reserved for internals. There is no BC break. Yes, there is however an expectation break but thats not the Point. May even be useful. Imagine a mock library: Usecase #1: end-user Sees only immediate useful data. No cluttered object graph. Very useful! Usecase #2: new maintainer Hunting bug in mock object. No way to var_dump object internals at all. Wait what? --------------030104000307090109040507--