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Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 11:24:15 +0100
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To: Lester Caine <lester@lsces.co.uk>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Declare minimum PHP version required?
From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye)

On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 11:03 AM, Lester Caine <lester@lsces.co.uk> wrote:
> Yasuo Ohgaki wrote:
>>
>> Yes. New assert() is as efficient as declare().
>> I cannot wait to use new assert()!
>
>
> Yasuo
> Please can you explain why you think this is so essential? The only place I
> can think that I would use this I ALSO need to advise the users that there
> is a problem. Adding 'assert' which apparently only has use while debugging
> just seems wrong. Alright I add vd() and similar myself when debugging code
> rather than using a 'debugger', but if I need to test something only at
> debug time then I'll just add code and remove it when I have sorted the
> problem. If it is a problem which will stop the code running, then it needs
> a proper response in the workflow anyway.
>
> ADOdb and smarty both have switches to enable debugging which can be
> switched on as required at runtime and I can't see any reason they would
> switch to using assert instead?

Let me rephrase that in another way.

It is no rocket science to correctly setup a production server.
Disable display errors, eanble log, create error pages (404, etc.).
Anyone not being able to understand or able to actually do it has
nothing to do anywhere closed to a production server.

Cheers,
-- 
Pierre

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