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To: Lester Caine <lester@lsces.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Declare minimum PHP version required?
From: indeyets@gmail.com (Alexey Zakhlestin)

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On 05 =D1=84=D0=B5=D0=B2=D1=80. 2014 =D0=B3., at 13:43, Lester Caine =
<lester@lsces.co.uk> wrote:

> Ferenc Kovacs wrote:
>> For general purpose applications (like drupal/wordpress/etc.) it =
wouldn't
>> be useful either, because they want nice and descriptive error =
screens
>> instead of php fatal errors which would most of the time just result =
in a
>> blank screen and some lines in the error log.
>=20
> This is perhaps one of the areas that would benefit from some =
improvement in a PHP6 roadmap. It IS all too easy to get a blank screen =
already without adding more? Invariably when an ISP upgrades their PHP =
service a number of their client sites simply give a white screen, and =
in many cases the users have no idea where to go next? More verbose =
responses actually on screen would be a little more constructive. =
Performance improvements are all very well, and do have a place, but a =
white screen is no use at all? Certainly it's a not uncommon result =
these days when upgrading PHP versions ...

well, idea is that production web-sites should never report details of =
their inner workings (including errors) on screen.
error-report is in the error-log.

but nice useful errors are a benefit of their own, so I hope that PHP6 =
will have
https://wiki.php.net/rfc/engine_exceptions

--=20
Alexey Zakhlestin
CTO at Grids.by/you
https://github.com/indeyets
PGP key: http://indeyets.ru/alexey.zakhlestin.pgp.asc




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