Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:72188 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 56909 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2014 09:24:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 4 Feb 2014 09:24:12 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.216.49 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.216.49 mail-qa0-f49.google.com Received: from [209.85.216.49] ([209.85.216.49:40752] helo=mail-qa0-f49.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 55/F8-09069-9B1B0F25 for ; Tue, 04 Feb 2014 04:24:09 -0500 Received: by mail-qa0-f49.google.com with SMTP id w8so11632852qac.36 for ; Tue, 04 Feb 2014 01:24:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=ET76H62jXeAHCNDYT6wptMx10Qi15sek5S1GTt5/o0E=; b=SKsLCjrmjGD50QE44ds6NQB/RfYaez6qFpcENPH2bb+r8tS3xtZstSFcYTGIlPHQLk 8zJrbutCTeXKAUhJcz4VlT0t5Tp8Hsq4iKlIYxMJ/x1A/tCOZikJfquGGjNwIrFtVMjL h6C5gDZBVBSIRUiWlJv/jkbIhlVoiIHUYv7mPEc7O6Cm7wo74KpBjp9p3TJnk/Eq9or/ orgUtHadc1GFnPmSYSqgMTsweSVV6dDtjiGfyHxlK4jHaOfuIuDUl2dXes7/GD9LIYkA 4WXddWrcEnzL1sUyFJTbJoOgItjtuHnAtdetW7WSyGw+vqTUzhE2M0cNevje9BUS9RrE VAEg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.115.11 with SMTP id g11mr27966703qaq.18.1391505846381; Tue, 04 Feb 2014 01:24:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.18.129 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Feb 2014 01:24:06 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <52F0ACC6.8030409@lsces.co.uk> References: <344075933.20140203143339@figureone.com> <617796370.20140204005840@cypressintegrated.com> <52F098F7.7000901@lsces.co.uk> <52F09D64.9020803@lsces.co.uk> <52F0A501.8030105@lsces.co.uk> <52F0ACC6.8030409@lsces.co.uk> Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 10:24:06 +0100 Message-ID: To: Lester Caine Cc: PHP internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Windows Peer Verification From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Lester Caine wrote: > It is a simple fact that the Linux distributions handle all of the material > they support via the package management. Yes, still none of our business. > Many of them update PHP with minor > version updates when things like a new tz version comes out Yes, if they use the bundled TZ data, but then it is updated via the extension update not the whole php. > or some other > library gets updated. They patch the PHP distribution to suit their needs > and keep things up to date. Which nowadays is the right way of working. Still none of our business. > Windows does not have the same update path when it comes to PHP and the > like, so it needs a third party to provide up to date information. TZ is bundled and updated on a regular basis. Updating PHP updates the TZ data. It however does not help to update it while keeping the same php version running. We can't do much about it. > Or > an alternative would be if there was some script mechanism to update CA > files or tz data rather than having to a full reinstall? The CA data is a single file and we will provide a script to update it. Add it to a cron and you are done. We can't do that for the TZ data due to technical reasons. We could find a way but it is not worth the effort, one can always update PHP to x.y.z+1. > PHP does not > up-issue simply because a new tz database is available, so in order to keep > time up to date it would be nice to address that problem. IF Microsoft are > now using the tz database directly Microsoft has nothing to do with that. They update the Windows TZ database, which is not used by PHP and there is no plan to use it. Even if we would use it, it would bring a lot of issues due to cross platform compatibility. Cheers, -- Pierre @pierrejoye | http://www.libgd.org