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Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 18:28:24 +0100
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To: Levi Morrison <morrison.levi@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: expectations/assertions
From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye)

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On Feb 3, 2014 6:18 PM, "Levi Morrison" <morrison.levi@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I support the idea behind improving assert; I really should be able to
say 'disable assertions' somehow and then assertions would have no impact
at runtime. I have not reviewed the changes for the revised RFC at this
time, but I wanted to voice my support for the general idea.
>
> Also:
>
> > assert never was a good thing to use
>
> This is just nonsense. Properly used asserts are fundamental in defensive
programming and you can quite a bit of literature about it. Perhaps Pierre
meant to say, "assert never was a good thing to use *in PHP*"

Indeed in php, and I do not use it in c either btw.

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