Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:72069 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 31077 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2014 10:17:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Feb 2014 10:17:18 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=lester@lsces.co.uk; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=lester@lsces.co.uk; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain lsces.co.uk from 217.147.176.204 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: lester@lsces.co.uk X-Host-Fingerprint: 217.147.176.204 mail4.serversure.net Linux 2.6 Received: from [217.147.176.204] ([217.147.176.204:51880] helo=mail4.serversure.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 67/C2-18355-DAC6FE25 for ; Mon, 03 Feb 2014 05:17:18 -0500 Received: (qmail 14645 invoked by uid 89); 3 Feb 2014 10:17:14 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.3.1 ppid: 14636, pid: 14642, t: 0.0491s scanners: attach: 1.3.1 clamav: 0.96/m:52 Received: from unknown (HELO linux-dev4.lsces.org.uk) (lester@rainbowdigitalmedia.org.uk@81.138.11.136) by mail4.serversure.net with ESMTPA; 3 Feb 2014 10:17:13 -0000 Message-ID: <52EF6D4E.8060901@lsces.co.uk> Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2014 10:19:58 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:26.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/26.0 SeaMonkey/2.23 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: internals@lists.php.net References: <52EE2B1D.7000307@pthreads.org> <52EEA7BE.4050500@sugarcrm.com> <52EEF636.7010505@pthreads.org> <52EF5588.6010902@sugarcrm.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: expectations/assertions From: lester@lsces.co.uk (Lester Caine) Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: > It is important to remove assertion overheads from production code. > Therefore, this RFC is valuable people who care about DbC and prefer to use > light weight frameworks like myself. And when did we agree to support DbC in the core? It really is feeling as if there are two versions of PHP being developed ... the one everybody uses and another 'fancy version' with all sorts of bells and whistles and just a very small minority want. Why can't all of these extensions simply be supported by third party tools ... which are already available ... and keep the core as simple as possible. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL ----------------------------- Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk