Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:72062 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 20475 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2014 09:50:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Feb 2014 09:50:48 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=derick@php.net; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=derick@php.net; spf=unknown; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: unknown (pb1.pair.com: domain php.net does not designate 82.113.146.227 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: derick@php.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 82.113.146.227 xdebug.org Linux 2.6 Received: from [82.113.146.227] ([82.113.146.227:52603] helo=xdebug.org) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 12/60-18355-8766FE25 for ; Mon, 03 Feb 2014 04:50:48 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by xdebug.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8F49910D5C2; Mon, 3 Feb 2014 09:50:45 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 09:50:44 +0000 (GMT) X-X-Sender: derick@whisky.home.derickrethans.nl To: Pierre Joye cc: Zeev Suraski , Christopher Jones , Anatol Belski , PHP Developers Mailing List In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <52EAF0A3.2000001@oracle.com> <1d5850561e0ef9e7739c7e7b7b0448d0.squirrel@webmail.klapt.com> <52EC0B34.8080109@oracle.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.10 (DEB 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] 64 bit platform improvements for string length and integer From: derick@php.net (Derick Rethans) On Sat, 1 Feb 2014, Pierre Joye wrote: > On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 7:28 PM, Zeev Suraski wrote: > >> I agree that the 64-bit RFC doesn't affect syntax. However it does > >> materially > >> affect the language, so I believe it requires a 2/3 majority. > > > > I'd consider it a language-changing RFC. The 2/3 majority is related to > > material changes in the language, and as you said, syntax changes are just > > one (although the most common) such example. The 50%+1 is really for > > extension-level changes - mostly new functions/extensions, moving stuff > > to/from PECL, etc. > > It is not, there is no change from user level but on windows and a 1-2 > other platforms with long being 32 bit in 64bit. > > Also I find amazingly disturbing the amount of efforts you are putting > to shut down this RFC, without a single comment in the last months or > weeks, not even now to explain your vote. > > I do not mind a no, but what is happening here is disgusting, to say > it nicely. What is "disgusting" is trying to push through an RFC that doesn't have broad consensus (for 5.6), while on the other hand effects way more people that some people on this list want to make out. Derick -- http://derickrethans.nl | http://xdebug.org Like Xdebug? Consider a donation: http://xdebug.org/donate.php twitter: @derickr and @xdebug Posted with an email client that doesn't mangle email: alpine