Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:71964 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 13019 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2014 02:34:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 Feb 2014 02:34:12 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=christopher.jones@oracle.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=christopher.jones@oracle.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain oracle.com designates 141.146.126.69 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: christopher.jones@oracle.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 141.146.126.69 aserp1040.oracle.com Received: from [141.146.126.69] ([141.146.126.69:18997] helo=aserp1040.oracle.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id AC/DE-30967-2AEADE25 for ; Sat, 01 Feb 2014 21:34:11 -0500 Received: from ucsinet21.oracle.com (ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id s122Y2UA019204 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 2 Feb 2014 02:34:03 GMT Received: from userz7021.oracle.com (userz7021.oracle.com [156.151.31.85]) by ucsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s122Y1Ju010909 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Sun, 2 Feb 2014 02:34:02 GMT Received: from abhmp0020.oracle.com (abhmp0020.oracle.com [141.146.116.26]) by userz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s122Y1RQ010880; Sun, 2 Feb 2014 02:34:01 GMT Received: from hubby.local (/50.184.131.10) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sat, 01 Feb 2014 18:34:01 -0800 Message-ID: <52EDAE99.1080707@oracle.com> Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2014 18:34:01 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pierre Joye , Zeev Suraski CC: Anatol Belski , PHP Developers Mailing List References: <52EAF0A3.2000001@oracle.com> <1d5850561e0ef9e7739c7e7b7b0448d0.squirrel@webmail.klapt.com> <52EC0B34.8080109@oracle.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Source-IP: ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93] Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] 64 bit platform improvements for string length and integer From: christopher.jones@oracle.com (Christopher Jones) On 2/1/14 10:35 AM, Pierre Joye wrote: > On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 7:28 PM, Zeev Suraski wrote: >>> I agree that the 64-bit RFC doesn't affect syntax. However it does >>> materially >>> affect the language, so I believe it requires a 2/3 majority. >> >> I'd consider it a language-changing RFC. The 2/3 majority is related to >> material changes in the language, and as you said, syntax changes are just >> one (although the most common) such example. The 50%+1 is really for >> extension-level changes - mostly new functions/extensions, moving stuff >> to/from PECL, etc. > > It is not, there is no change from user level but on windows and a 1-2 > other platforms with long being 32 bit in 64bit. > > Also I find amazingly disturbing the amount of efforts you are putting > to shut down this RFC, without a single comment in the last months or > weeks, not even now to explain your vote. > > I do not mind a no, but what is happening here is disgusting, to say it nicely. > > Cheers, > I believe Zeev was giving an opinion on the question I asked, no more or less, in reference to the ambiguous voting RFC. Chris -- christopher.jones@oracle.com http://twitter.com/ghrd Free PHP & Oracle book: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/topics/php/underground-php-oracle-manual-098250.html