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Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2014 20:11:51 +0100
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] 64 bit platform improvements for string
 length and integer
From: johannes@schlueters.de (Johannes =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Schl=FCter?=)

On Sat, 2014-02-01 at 19:35 +0100, Pierre Joye wrote:
> It is not, there is no change from user level but on windows and a 1-2
> other platforms with long being 32 bit in 64bit.

The current rule isn't precise, different interpretations are possible.
I lean to the side that a big change to the APIs is comparable to a
userland language change. I can see that this is read differently.

> Also I find amazingly disturbing the amount of efforts you are putting
> to shut down this RFC, without a single comment in the last months or
> weeks, not even now to explain your vote.
> 
> I do not mind a no, but what is happening here is disgusting, to say it nicely.

Many contributors mentioned their concern about pushing in a patch
changing more than 20,000 lines of code now. I haven't seen much critic
on the implementation itself, simply the request for more time to
a) review it to make sure there are no accidental errors from conversion
and
b) time to learn "the new way" before putting in a release, many have to
relearn thins hardwired in the brain for more than 10 years, such
adoption takes some time.

Yes, we might have reviewed the branch sooner and learned the details
sooner but we are lazy and holding back in investing time in
"experimental" things.

I think a good way to proceed is to put it in master now and leave it
from 5.6. This forces everybody to look into it (and we will have lots
of opportunity to learn due to merging pain [which we have when putting
in 5.6, too]) and gives everybody enough time to adopt their brain and
prepare pecl (and internal) exts.

johannes