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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] 64 bit platform improvements for string length
 and integer
From: lester@lsces.co.uk (Lester Caine)

Pierre Joye wrote:
> Also see Anatol latest post to internals, the sample extension shows
> the difference between a  5.3/4/5 code and one supporting 5.3/4/5 and
> with the int64 patch with the option #2 and #3. The changes are really
> straightforward and far less intrusive than without these options.

I see that the vote currently has swung from yes to no for including in 5.6 but 
actually there is no option to include it even in PHP6? The improvement is 
required, needs proper planning because of the impact on many third parties, and 
should be planned now on the basis of a new PHP6.

That said, I still see no reply to my enquiry as to how this will affect user 
land usage between 32 and 64 bit builds. To this end, vote 3 would seem to 
directly impact how we format displays and is one of the areas that I am 
concerned that there will be a difference between the two builds? What I would 
like to see in the RFC is some proper documentation on the differences between 
the two so that we can plan on how this is handled when moving from PHP5 to PHP6 
( even if you call it PHP5.6 ;) ) ...

The current disagreement is not about including it, but simply how it is 
included. I would prefer that you now leave PHP5 alone and simply get on with a 
parallel development of PHP6 ... which currently the vote would seem to support? 
People how need the 64bit improvements can run PHP6 early ... I ran PHP5 for 6 
months before it was actually released simply to avoid having to worry about 4 
back then. A little bit of fun as things changed, but it keeps the effects of 
missing extensions nicely ring fenced?

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