Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:71900 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 66677 invoked from network); 31 Jan 2014 21:51:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 31 Jan 2014 21:51:32 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=christopher.jones@oracle.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=christopher.jones@oracle.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain oracle.com designates 141.146.126.69 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: christopher.jones@oracle.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 141.146.126.69 aserp1040.oracle.com Received: from [141.146.126.69] ([141.146.126.69:46013] helo=aserp1040.oracle.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 38/B2-54292-2EA1CE25 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2014 16:51:31 -0500 Received: from ucsinet22.oracle.com (ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id s0VLpQ2p015787 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 31 Jan 2014 21:51:27 GMT Received: from aserz7021.oracle.com (aserz7021.oracle.com [141.146.126.230]) by ucsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.5+Sun/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s0VLpPJL019548 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 31 Jan 2014 21:51:26 GMT Received: from abhmp0011.oracle.com (abhmp0011.oracle.com [141.146.116.17]) by aserz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s0VLpPMd027593; Fri, 31 Jan 2014 21:51:25 GMT Received: from [130.35.70.190] (/130.35.70.190) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Fri, 31 Jan 2014 13:51:25 -0800 Message-ID: <52EC1ADD.50505@oracle.com> Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2014 13:51:25 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: internals@lists.php.net, Zeev Suraski References: <1391171792.2941.130.camel@guybrush> <52EB9A16.5060605@phpdoc.de> <1391172906.2941.140.camel@guybrush> <9810c708a9fcc543a263365b5d7c2a63@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9810c708a9fcc543a263365b5d7c2a63@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Source-IP: ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94] Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] 64 bit platform improvements for string length and integer From: christopher.jones@oracle.com (Christopher Jones) On 01/31/2014 01:21 PM, Zeev Suraski wrote: > All, > > I have to add something here. > > Many of the people voting on that RFC have never ever contributed as much as > a single line of code into the PHP source tree, and a couple have literally > contributed low-single-digit patches. > Incidentally, as far as I could tell, all of them[*] voted in favor of the > proposed changes (i.e. source compatibility breakage). > > Even though having non-code-contributors makes a lot of sense for decisions > regarding the language's features and we built in support for it in the > voting RFC, in my opinion, it makes no sense at all for people who have no > stake at the development of the language's source code to weigh in on how > that code is written. Personally I didn't expect we'd be voting on things > like that (implementation style) back when I was involved in the voting RFC, > but perhaps it's time to amend it a bit. > > If you fall in that category, please do the right thing and delete your > vote. > > Zeev > You might need to contact such people individually, since they conceivably will miss your email in the morass of postings. I would be interested in your opinion on the majority required: http://marc.info/?l=php-internals&m=139112879612711&w=2 Chris -- christopher.jones@oracle.com http://twitter.com/ghrd Free PHP & Oracle book: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/topics/php/underground-php-oracle-manual-098250.html