Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:71796 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 39610 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2014 15:59:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 30 Jan 2014 15:59:30 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=arvids.godjuks@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=arvids.godjuks@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.216.47 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: arvids.godjuks@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.216.47 mail-qa0-f47.google.com Received: from [209.85.216.47] ([209.85.216.47:59142] helo=mail-qa0-f47.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 84/B2-42724-1E67AE25 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 10:59:29 -0500 Received: by mail-qa0-f47.google.com with SMTP id j5so4634178qaq.34 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 07:59:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=lNzjayotzOsPQMo7A87gUFnKgtUBphfJaTJbghjBJzs=; b=qO6lJWAMrXkIIlw746MRxugdlrThsbeiIzW0qFXA2GFrw3Qj6f7xIvWEMSdPlJvPoD hbEzZ05QUazPVEETBQpqPlGWNohUMw4u8aavTv6xzruZz0Zar4bWOYP9gPPncczz8VhH E8Gx0Rk3HhQR3UnPmS4AWMdgkkdjSc1p+D4ovp3wYFk2PDrIjzTdT6hkq09LM9fYE/3G MkuWTHA4kimCagMb+mCrJ41Qq+UKpdO5dn61xdeuO/QRaUcG6P12+suk3TfPTVGXS38S fguhBLIgSwkrNZR8sDLV470BJ/5On0KEaqtlZaD5wqsTGlLJsw4NNEVzLcpbJ63oEHRy Hklw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.140.89.52 with SMTP id u49mr21787099qgd.93.1391097566895; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 07:59:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.97.182 with HTTP; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 07:59:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.97.182 with HTTP; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 07:59:26 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <52EA738D.5060600@lerdorf.com> References: <52E8C097.6080208@lsces.co.uk> <52EA738D.5060600@lerdorf.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 17:59:26 +0200 Message-ID: To: Rasmus Lerdorf Cc: PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c1236a52a4cc04f1322435 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] some thoughts about php 6 From: arvids.godjuks@gmail.com (Arvids Godjuks) --001a11c1236a52a4cc04f1322435 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 30 =D1=8F=D0=BD=D0=B2. 2014 =D0=B3. 17:45 =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=B7=D0= =BE=D0=B2=D0=B0=D1=82=D0=B5=D0=BB=D1=8C "Rasmus Lerdorf" =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BB: > > On 1/30/14, 2:26 AM, Arvids Godjuks wrote: > > So, I say you go with the 64 bit improvements for 5.6, set all the things > > in motion, do the porting docs and make a hell lot of noise about this. I'm > > willing to help with the information campaign, because this lack of proper > > 64 bit support has gave me a few "WTF?!" situations when I had to figur= e > > out why things do not work and realize it's due to the 64 vs 32 bit issues. > > You make it sound like 64-bit vs. 32-bit issues will go away with this > patch. If you are writing portable code that should run the same > everywhere you still have to worry about it. This change does not > suddenly give you 64-bit integers on a 32-bit platform. The main thing > this does is it makes 64-bit Windows no longer look like a 32-bit > platform. Other true 32-bit platforms remain 32-bit. It also makes it > possible to have >2g strings on 64-bit platforms, but this is hopefully > a rather rare requirement. Imagine running that code on a server with > MaxClients set to 50... > > I am all for this change, but I still think it is too big of an API > break for a point release. > > -Rasmus > I've hit exactly the 32 bit ints on 64 bit windows. I know that 32 bit os is 32, but i don't use those period for ages (due to some spesific stuff i need big 64 ints). Arvids. --001a11c1236a52a4cc04f1322435--