Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:71732 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 43937 invoked from network); 29 Jan 2014 16:05:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 29 Jan 2014 16:05:57 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=php@hristov.com; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=php@hristov.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain hristov.com from 91.196.124.214 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: php@hristov.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 91.196.124.214 more.superhosting.bg Linux 2.6 Received: from [91.196.124.214] ([91.196.124.214:48233] helo=more.superhosting.bg) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id A9/92-26556-2E629E25 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 2014 11:05:56 -0500 Received: from [87.121.162.109] (port=43207 helo=[192.168.20.117]) by more.superhosting.bg with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1W8XeA-001XVV-Fd for internals@lists.php.net; Wed, 29 Jan 2014 18:05:50 +0200 Message-ID: <52E926DE.1060508@hristov.com> Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 18:05:50 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: internals@lists.php.net References: <52E7FCFB.7040108@hristov.com> In-Reply-To: <52E7FCFB.7040108@hristov.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - more.superhosting.bg X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lists.php.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - hristov.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: more.superhosting.bg: authenticated_id: php@hristov.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] some thoughts about php 6 From: php@hristov.com (Andrey Hristov) On 28.01.2014 20:54, Andrey Hristov wrote: > On 28.01.2014 18:34, Kristopher wrote: >> On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 9:32 AM, Pierre Joye >> wrote: >> >>> >>> - Case sensitivity >>> . Even with ini setting, which will be most likely system wild, will >>> bring a major breakage for almost every single app out there. I do not >>> see any gain to do it. >>> >> >> Really? I'd definitely love to see it for class and function names. Have >> you ever tried to deploy or develop an application with a team on >> different >> operating systems, and had the entire code puke because someone >> accidentally did casing wrong on a class name and the autoloader barfed >> trying to load the file on a case-sensitive operating system? >> >> I work with many developers using silly Mac OS X and it's case >> insensitive >> file names. We deal with someone fat-fingering a class name on a regular >> basis. >> > then you are missing staging/CI servers on Linux to catch the problem. not the language is silly, the developers are. Why C doesn't forbid out of range accesses on arrays. Is the language silly? > Best, > Andrey > Andrey