Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:71720 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 8776 invoked from network); 29 Jan 2014 10:15:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 29 Jan 2014 10:15:04 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=jorton@redhat.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=jorton@redhat.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain redhat.com designates 209.132.183.28 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: jorton@redhat.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.132.183.28 mx1.redhat.com Received: from [209.132.183.28] ([209.132.183.28:30495] helo=mx1.redhat.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id F7/52-28363-6A4D8E25 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 2014 05:15:03 -0500 Received: from int-mx02.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (int-mx02.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.12]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s0TAExrq027146 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 29 Jan 2014 05:14:59 -0500 Received: from iberis.manyfish.co.uk (vpn-54-69.rdu2.redhat.com [10.10.54.69]) by int-mx02.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s0TAEvVl003867 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 29 Jan 2014 05:14:58 -0500 Received: from jorton by iberis.manyfish.co.uk with local (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1W8SAb-0001gw-BB for internals@lists.php.net; Wed, 29 Jan 2014 10:14:57 +0000 Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 10:14:57 +0000 To: internals@lists.php.net Message-ID: <20140129101457.GA6220@redhat.com> Mail-Followup-To: internals@lists.php.net References: <1A1D3F38-DA1F-47AB-9387-1C4C7BA9FB97@ez.no> <52E7E644.60409@fedoraproject.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Organization: Registered in England and Wales under Company Registration No. 03798903 Directors: Michael Cunningham (US), Paul Hickey (Ireland), Matt Parson (US), Charles Peters (US) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 10.5.11.12 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RHEL 7 beta ships with PHP 5.4 instead of 5.5 From: jorton@redhat.com (Joe Orton) On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 06:49:26PM +0000, André Rømcke wrote: > RHSCL is nice, but: > - 5.5 has been out for quite some time > - On current RHSCL you can get PHP 5.4 but no stable opcache as neither APC or ZendOpcache is offically stable for 5.4 > > Last point would probably hit RHEL 7 pretty hard as well, or? Hi André. This is way off-topic for internals@ but I'll jump in anyway. We basically have always faced this tension with RHEL, where we have a very long support lifecycle. The version of PHP we ship in RHEL7 will be considered "old and out of date" by the PHP community for most of the RHEL7 lifecycle, regardless of whether that is 5.4 or 5.5. But in RHEL we aim to provide a stable, well tested, supported & secure platform for customers, not the latest and greatest upstream bits. As Remi said we are looking to Software Collections as a way we can better meet demand for "latest and greatest" bits from upstream. I'd be happy to discuss further but it's probably best if we take it off-list! Regards, Joe