Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:71711 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 78190 invoked from network); 29 Jan 2014 03:06:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 29 Jan 2014 03:06:39 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=yohgaki@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=yohgaki@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.217.172 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: yohgaki@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.217.172 mail-lb0-f172.google.com Received: from [209.85.217.172] ([209.85.217.172:40973] helo=mail-lb0-f172.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 4A/7E-01140-D3078E25 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 2014 22:06:38 -0500 Received: by mail-lb0-f172.google.com with SMTP id c11so1046550lbj.31 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 2014 19:06:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=NHip5EBjrhytNf24oLb1n7X7/40aBI4JiOlPu7mI7yM=; b=qQ8/cmsBww269YT/pr7uAfxjMUVQjXan1u6ZtJZ++kGDkO9J/Fo3R+Z8es7C6+c6vF ZsbK2VUOQDQ22oL+q/expWY53+Eqye40V2BFxefOKNDJGySWPh2ktcSqnGom7UlSdyCo Ffkj8oE9c9TNczfV10JFlC390pZNGKxwXPHJNXbU+8XBocZElS5XXTBWtHCL4aWhNFlQ 5kAJB7KHruLvFDWRen9N1ZYEHOrFmuDXMs9Y5eUQd1m81Xp7twtZTHsAaADDflIb8zLi CVxj7b1lasx+XWD4qL3tElV++7aWQBAok9arJavHceaBPAbzSjIZYU4VvdBdPRGz3mjR 0YaA== X-Received: by 10.112.128.170 with SMTP id np10mr3305537lbb.22.1390964795138; Tue, 28 Jan 2014 19:06:35 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: yohgaki@gmail.com Received: by 10.112.199.37 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Jan 2014 19:05:54 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 12:05:54 +0900 X-Google-Sender-Auth: mCJHlD1ao5ZrYliYCD_09pRcPU0 Message-ID: To: Pierre Joye Cc: PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b3a87668269bb04f1133ac4 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] some thoughts about php 6 From: yohgaki@ohgaki.net (Yasuo Ohgaki) --047d7b3a87668269bb04f1133ac4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi Pierre, On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 11:32 PM, Pierre Joye wrote: > However it has drawback, adoption. > > One thing I would very strongly consider is the actual gains brought > by a change. > > - rename or alias functions to fulfill our naming conventions or > coding standards > . where is the gain in the long term? > . most of the functions are procedural and string/array/scalar > related. I would prefer to think about alternative solutions like the > NIkic's proposal using OO-like APIs. Keeps BC, brings cleaner APIs > into the game > I agree it's nicer. My only concern is that the same discussion was done about 10 years ago and still don't have them. We may be able to clean up string/array functions. However it seems odds are high that we still have live legacy names around next 10 years or more especially in modules... Regards, -- Yasuo Ohgaki yohgaki@ohgaki.net --047d7b3a87668269bb04f1133ac4--