Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:71673 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 1969 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2014 14:33:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 28 Jan 2014 14:33:14 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.217.179 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.217.179 mail-lb0-f179.google.com Received: from [209.85.217.179] ([209.85.217.179:39984] helo=mail-lb0-f179.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 74/FF-01140-AAFB7E25 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 2014 09:33:14 -0500 Received: by mail-lb0-f179.google.com with SMTP id l4so396763lbv.24 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 2014 06:33:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=D+W9yV1AEeaPE219Vuc4IEmCO4NRFKpc2mYCicuzQzA=; b=J9/NHV9rxTYtAgkToEFb2uQcZ/T4Jua+NJU1coBgqd7YYUmK50tU+ReIRPjviXIyv+ 85Bi+/uRRDewwhprDobrjnoT8ICCIuzTBb5Y9FE5655Y67jMXi4hlFE40L1c9IhqkQyi YTUMIJ5T7nikpe7vZziN1qIpVhu/dslazcCsYRRwf6bT/Y+uI2uQhxiFA392D+AvLcZs 8h78aHOAaqivK31aUIVKJ05cA8stxYv3GDkZuK44NcWHrqqnEIYqu7mb1XIukLlAmfR8 gcxPSND/ZMWDh/iarTsmN7QMBjhZGjy6Gj/J2vpGqWM7t1WDZ1f3ShR75vMuxHDj1qSE 1VPg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.163.69 with SMTP id yg5mr1209264lab.33.1390919591071; Tue, 28 Jan 2014 06:33:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.112.35.163 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Jan 2014 06:33:11 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 15:33:11 +0100 Message-ID: To: PHP internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: some thoughts about php 6 From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) clicked too early, more to come, but feel free to reply to this part alreay :) On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 3:32 PM, Pierre Joye wrote: > hi, > > While reading the various discussions about what we should change, > kill, remove, rename and similar operations, I thought it would be > good to put things back in perspective. > > It is indeed very appealing to think about killing every single little > annoyances PHP has accumulated. The idea to be able to write "nice and > clean" code makes me feel good. > > > However it has drawback, adoption. > > One thing I would very strongly consider is the actual gains brought > by a change. > > - rename or alias functions to fulfill our naming conventions or > coding standards > . where is the gain in the long term? > . most of the functions are procedural and string/array/scalar > related. I would prefer to think about alternative solutions like the > NIkic's proposal using OO-like APIs. Keeps BC, brings cleaner APIs > into the game > > - Case sensitivity > . Even with ini setting, which will be most likely system wild, will > bring a major breakage for almost every single app out there. I do not > see any gain to do it. > > -- > Pierre > > @pierrejoye | http://www.libgd.org -- Pierre @pierrejoye | http://www.libgd.org