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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 15:44:55 +0200
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Ruminations on PHP 5++
From: arvids.godjuks@gmail.com (Arvids Godjuks)

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2014-01-27 Lester Caine <lester@lsces.co.uk>

> Arvids Godjuks wrote:
>
>> With your permission, I want to start that "Future of PDO" thread, laying
>> out my personal experience with it and some thought for the future to
>> invite the discussion.
>>
>
> Well there is a list for discussing PDO, but there has only been one post
> in the last few months. I'm not sure that pushing the discussion over there
> would help any? It needs a wider discussion on database support in general?
>
>
> --
> Lester Caine - G8HFL
>

I'm a userland PHP developer, so I can't speak to the internals of PDO and
how it is coded.
But as I spoke to people and read all kinds of stuff about PDO (and I
talked on this topic a lot with Julien Pauli when he was visiting for a
conference), PDO has some big issues on it's development side and
internals, that should be taken care of before there is a wide audience
discussion on the userland side. So my thinking is that at this point it
warants a php-internals discussion first. And then, depending on that
discussions outcome, init a wide audience discussion on the future of PDO
with PHP-FIG and others. But I want to re-iterate, and I can be wrong: PDO
is a huge undertaking by it's nature and as far as I know, there is not
much work been done since it's release and has a lot of technical dept
accumulated (just see the giant difference between the PDO and most of the
native drivers functionality wise). Internals should decine what to do with
it in the first and are there resources to even bother with it (I had a few
hints that people just don't want go near the PDO).

Also, a concern of mine is that if we start with a more broad discussion
right away, it may end up in a flamewar, unconstructive discussion and
people pushing their own ideas too much - all of what can lead to another
"Hint typing" monster thread.

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