Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:71627 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 59771 invoked from network); 27 Jan 2014 07:36:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 27 Jan 2014 07:36:47 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=smalyshev@sugarcrm.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=smalyshev@sugarcrm.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain sugarcrm.com designates 67.192.241.183 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: smalyshev@sugarcrm.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 67.192.241.183 smtp183.dfw.emailsrvr.com Linux 2.6 Received: from [67.192.241.183] ([67.192.241.183:56222] helo=smtp183.dfw.emailsrvr.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id C2/7F-12631-E8C06E25 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2014 02:36:46 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp8.relay.dfw1a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D2C518106 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2014 02:36:43 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: OK Received: by smtp8.relay.dfw1a.emailsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: smalyshev-AT-sugarcrm.com) with ESMTPSA id 9C5D28102 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2014 02:36:43 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <52E60C8B.3000903@sugarcrm.com> Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2014 23:36:43 -0800 Organization: SugarCRM User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PHP Internals References: <52E29253.2000801@lsces.co.uk> <52E2924B.6080002@ajf.me> <52E29845.8050208@ajf.me> In-Reply-To: <52E29845.8050208@ajf.me> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Ruminations on PHP 5++ From: smalyshev@sugarcrm.com (Stas Malyshev) Hi! > I think, longer term, we must also realise that without reform, PHP will > die anyway, if we let it fall too far behind the competition. PHP 6 is a > chance to change some things for the better. Frankly, I don't see a reason for all this doom and gloom. There are a lot of people using PHP, and they are pretty happy with it. Of course, languages come out of fashion, and that can happen with PHP too, but so far it doesn't seem to happen. There of course if a lot of room for improvement, and all of it is welcome, but I we should not move in the direction of "PHP will die unless we do something drastic right now". I personally feel such description regarding the state of PHP would be just wrong. -- Stanislav Malyshev, Software Architect SugarCRM: http://www.sugarcrm.com/ (408)454-6900 ext. 227