Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:71512 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 26210 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2014 15:56:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 24 Jan 2014 15:56:03 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=g.b.yahav@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=g.b.yahav@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.160.54 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: g.b.yahav@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.160.54 mail-pb0-f54.google.com Received: from [209.85.160.54] ([209.85.160.54:50142] helo=mail-pb0-f54.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 04/01-21270-11D82E25 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 10:56:01 -0500 Received: by mail-pb0-f54.google.com with SMTP id uo5so3421383pbc.27 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 07:55:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=3UNKW1JoFzetXaT4NzNNdSScyUt8kbzGdjnoX4xamPc=; b=K6S+EiLQkimnYwCw0baj50mAph/Cr65/8WN4a/4oqOqXDvG8MbJ5VHv2V/CHGfAg3i hRlwnGb2VYzHUnGpbAFMkR2dXvaz4rZ3fMzlugeoMoik8y9qOG4Kypok12zV7BiXZQgz /dx6XgW2R1Fh1taZOiqpH1cS3JqGBJ9B1hqVcTcX8eUq6Z6s51OpVyu8klYbhzZgt2gL 5W6mPxC4h8uL0RXxb48WCcaa4jRRZI7Ef/OAWDPxTGSPOwobduHb8YVLWVS+J4WmLbxQ 7e+a9zhhjgmJu/xzgWhTUCWCTBtt1s1S4pPVd/WVBgtFLNoIft2XPMxo1MkWfTPUzJtx /dgg== X-Received: by 10.66.155.7 with SMTP id vs7mr15223176pab.42.1390578957154; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 07:55:57 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.70.63.73 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 07:55:37 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 17:55:37 +0200 Message-ID: To: Ferenc Kovacs Cc: Julien Pauli , Adam Harvey , Nikita Popov , PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bacb8c2c5ff1204f0b964b9 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Ruminations on PHP 5++ From: g.b.yahav@gmail.com (Yahav Gindi Bar) --047d7bacb8c2c5ff1204f0b964b9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just wish to say that I'll love to help refactor some internal code in addition to ideas and implementations (didn't got the opportunity to comment lately but wish to note that). On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: > > > > > > Hah finally a serious talk about next major, with no (not yet) trolls i= n > > it. > > We have to release a new major , or at least to start thinking about > > it seriously. > > 5.3 and 5.4 could have been majors by themselves, as they really fully > > changed the way you develop PHP apps. > > > > Like Nikita said, we have enough new (BC breaking) features and ideas > > to start PHP5++ > > > > I'd like to add that I'd like to use this major to introduce some > > clean-up as well, should they be internal or external. > > We're gonna break BC, let's do it in a way so that we start back with > > a new clean code base, like when PHP5.0 got released, with a new Zend > > Engine 2 inside. > > Let's use this major to refactor internals code and finally tidy up > > things as well in external API. > > > > Julien.P > > > > -- > > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > > > > agree with all of the above mentioned points. > I had a related post back in November, where I mentioned that we don't ha= ve > a process for making major versions, but we desperatly need one: > http://news.php.net/php.internals/70233 > I'm already seeing the force/sneak in inappropriate changes to a minor > version happening, because we don't have a plan for a major. > > > -- > Ferenc Kov=E1cs > @Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu > --047d7bacb8c2c5ff1204f0b964b9--