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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 16:50:25 +0100
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To: Julien Pauli <jpauli@php.net>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Ruminations on PHP 5++
From: tyra3l@gmail.com (Ferenc Kovacs)

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>
>
> Hah finally a serious talk about next major, with no (not yet) trolls in
> it.
> We have to release a new major , or at least to start thinking about
> it seriously.
> 5.3 and 5.4 could have been majors by themselves, as they really fully
> changed the way you develop PHP apps.
>
> Like Nikita said, we have enough new (BC breaking) features and ideas
> to start PHP5++
>
> I'd like to add that I'd like to use this major to introduce some
> clean-up as well, should they be internal or external.
> We're gonna break BC, let's do it in a way so that we start back with
> a new clean code base, like when PHP5.0 got released, with a new Zend
> Engine 2 inside.
> Let's use this major to refactor internals code and finally tidy up
> things as well in external API.
>
> Julien.P
>
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>
agree with all of the above mentioned points.
I had a related post back in November, where I mentioned that we don't have
a process for making major versions, but we desperatly need one:
http://news.php.net/php.internals/70233
I'm already seeing the force/sneak in inappropriate changes to a minor
version happening, because we don't have a plan for a major.


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