Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:71488 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 72598 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2014 08:53:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 24 Jan 2014 08:53:26 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=phoenix@jonstirling.co.uk; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=phoenix@jonstirling.co.uk; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain jonstirling.co.uk from 209.85.214.50 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: phoenix@jonstirling.co.uk X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.214.50 mail-bk0-f50.google.com Received: from [209.85.214.50] ([209.85.214.50:58636] helo=mail-bk0-f50.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 4C/79-39789-40A22E25 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 03:53:25 -0500 Received: by mail-bk0-f50.google.com with SMTP id w16so986574bkz.23 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 00:53:21 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=lzJQov++mDxi2IbXPpESFXpz9f7WfJh1BIyhOrNeXDQ=; b=dXhWnplDkvMXsZyNsBb/Hw7IONRya1JyRmoFj7sWOAr3sv8QNz2VDKCV+96fxHkZnM ssFPxHtCVoSJGuALGtQ2balBrMmJmoXACkI3/WIkeM+EZRSJP/uTpgreejGGl5gUT/vY ZFIsRzpkt/sRlkhg0CaB+y2ZQHgDWWmXKI7AE1uYF72gdlJlvCdaZG+n1Fqnf71B6f25 aTC+IJZ7E4EVfv9RhZOwjNNMQlTJQB4y0q4mmfRaTQESb1W12EuzFSZ4fZBofpkDMWJQ Cyew6qQKR6TFlIesawfw2zqTdZ20B9T0D72RaHE6FEMtLBQVvhZDWiuUXcv3NZCfiXJs yi4w== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnFwvzLT60VjU1lC25+ngK1WgmhBPM6W6MJ6YUf9Fzx0KmDs4NMCwDEDBK+uT3toWjHd3xk MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.204.172.145 with SMTP id l17mr6842364bkz.26.1390553601136; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 00:53:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.231.7 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 00:53:21 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [62.252.0.138] In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 08:53:21 +0000 Message-ID: To: Arvids Godjuks Cc: PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec52c5f5b703ba404f0b37d5f Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Ruminations on PHP 5++ From: phoenix@jonstirling.co.uk (Jonny Stirling) --bcaec52c5f5b703ba404f0b37d5f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Arvids Godjuks wrote: > Hello, > > As far as I know, there is an RFC that defines that big PHP releases are > done once a year and EOL of previous branches are done in a manner that > there are no more than 3 branches active at any moment. If you push 5.7 and > in half a year release 5++ - you will end up with 4 paralel active branches > and that's not good. We have to rememeber that 5++ will bring a lot of > change and internal devs will have to deal with of influx of pull requests, > extension updating, deal with educating people how to not mess up while > updating the extensions for 64 bit support and so on. > > As far as the version number goes - PHP 6 is fine. The mess with the > Unicode support happend a long time ago and probably is not remembered by > many :) > > Arvids. > Whatever the process used, I do agree that it is time to get started, at least with scheduling, PHP 5++. As for the controversial naming. I don't think there would have been any issue with using 6 if the problem was simply the Unicode support. The problem I see (and I'm only making the point, not suggesting either way) is that there were so many posts and more importantly books that are still in circulation for "PHP 6". Now, the above isn't "our" problem or mistake, but, they do exist and could cause confusion to the user base. Jonny. --bcaec52c5f5b703ba404f0b37d5f--