Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:71470 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 20586 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2014 01:25:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 24 Jan 2014 01:25:57 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=adam@adamharvey.name; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=adam@adamharvey.name; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain adamharvey.name designates 209.85.223.173 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: adam@adamharvey.name X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.223.173 mail-ie0-f173.google.com Received: from [209.85.223.173] ([209.85.223.173:52126] helo=mail-ie0-f173.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 76/AF-39789-421C1E25 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 20:25:57 -0500 Received: by mail-ie0-f173.google.com with SMTP id e14so2162373iej.4 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 17:25:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=adamharvey.name; s=google; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ABvsSo225PYozHLsjrFLgKr0lUirSuhOFyMOtvH2JeM=; b=Dqznep9/+/5Gt5mjIrQGebAp+4qzvc4YG+ZopXSXMULufcI8Iu1Rf4HsfJIAyg1vZ7 EbBofqUaOo9/BTXIlvknv6qyrkc2L9B03Wupta5ZbNB/+BC38oCdSbMngpyyoR/nrrK7 9Ow8CqbRcwucSkRWQGdwsvPeKXcDpxCvFQVNk= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ABvsSo225PYozHLsjrFLgKr0lUirSuhOFyMOtvH2JeM=; b=NMWMzO8hx8phmhYqyouVjruNAdkk6ehveckC9KxuKnuYir7HPjisyijD4iWMU4yqUZ VbbuHkBKnm0uBTKA3biB8ezQJl5lveMZmiOyNLFi2E1H8TSaHHP6ycbda8uC7TsfFG8J BMymJ4qL2DCVUqs5j3V8RYlL72VKeMAAB+P/hwrZL8tp8Wr0sw1GjwCX//Q3FF8amaJY hMKZ5LSD7T0AYlHnp01OTuM60YgKfX23YRZGq7fz8x84rHMmc2YpDoYixTlwngWrZ3dh aqElt3OedzRByKMcF8t59ovy3zCIANSBvWTdz4N9nkV8UPjUcbC/996+Qfn/oCEBiAa3 Adcg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQl3zjUiTrRn1zaHT66+RE+NI4gQ44t6JygKFTw9bNTG8OByXicrSTPFwPu+03YYXJQ6XNa/ X-Received: by 10.50.122.38 with SMTP id lp6mr2179834igb.30.1390526753590; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 17:25:53 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: adam@adamharvey.name Received: by 10.42.206.208 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 17:25:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <52E150CC.8080202@oracle.com> References: <52E0F55F.4040802@lsces.co.uk> <52E150CC.8080202@oracle.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 09:25:33 +0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: DG68Wmz7a9AnXtaGdkTDdP_0Uyc Message-ID: To: Christopher Jones Cc: PHP internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] 64 bit platform improvements for string length and integer From: aharvey@php.net (Adam Harvey) On 24 January 2014 01:26, Christopher Jones wrote: > Overall > - I'm fine with changes going into, say, PHP 5.7 > - I'm fine with the type renaming > - I'd prefer ZPP compatibility was kept > - I'm fine with dropping support for old SAPIs, but I think warning > is needed no matter how unusable they currently are e.g. this means > merging the feature to PHP 5.7 This is pretty much how I feel about this too. As a user, it's something I'd like to have, but as a maintainer or developer on a few extensions (some PECL, some third party), this isn't something I'm terribly excited about having on a few months notice for 5.6 =E2=80=94 it's going to be an annoying, subtle change for code that has to support older versions, as worthwhile as it is in the long term. I think Nikita's earlier point upthread about it being something that feels like a major version feature is a potentially a good one. I'm happy enough with it being in 5.7 if we still don't have any plans for 5++ in 6-12 months, but if we end up starting to work on a 5++ simultaneously with 5.7 (which I could see happening, given recent threads on Internals), then it may even be better held off for that. Adam