Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:71358 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 45235 invoked from network); 20 Jan 2014 21:24:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 20 Jan 2014 21:24:35 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=php@golemon.com; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=php@golemon.com; spf=softfail; sender-id=softfail Received-SPF: softfail (pb1.pair.com: domain golemon.com does not designate 209.85.160.46 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: php@golemon.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.160.46 mail-pb0-f46.google.com Received: from [209.85.160.46] ([209.85.160.46:62347] helo=mail-pb0-f46.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id DA/5C-02192-2149DD25 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 16:24:34 -0500 Received: by mail-pb0-f46.google.com with SMTP id um1so2441129pbc.5 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 13:24:31 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=wK8lVpQSoELqQ35zwQ9JDV9gfS8JoTW/vGcMuKLf60o=; b=MrHbFOPsaePTJH4FGXWdN6mwQXpkUBkl5kSOYr4BcZn/eOCqW+KSs1F20wRbyiXHsG EcM28sLh2nZwbbwh55Y+h8SD1CaXtDi+bEsVIZ42Xw/D2BpjEUWOCTLkO7Z/BgkKGcDh oXs/hov5fILDm4PPtpW7EhpH2TpPFBuL2L/xqGzh+lweIHzZdTdE3kHmwTMshe4iolMq jD0Pz0mRWtFynRCGBNwzT8ZKPgY1Ba4SIr+7N+d0q8GtqS/+J1wrPSemOWsXhKYjyccA IxrikaPD+Ik4lXv/dvrmIdt1+AGEJYehBnNyrmUsztNN5daKt3A3GmpgYCkfMAjsEy3L wy5w== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnv8+R5sNYGzlDWRf/sWS3FWLlKXwF08kKGSrMjlOeU38IRlEtWXRcwMXt5lknYlXRylD/g MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.96.99 with SMTP id dr3mr20914316pbb.40.1390253071801; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 13:24:31 -0800 (PST) Sender: php@golemon.com Received: by 10.70.77.164 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 13:24:31 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [2001:470:1f09:2fa:22c9:d0ff:fe87:295b] In-Reply-To: <52DD929E.5070906@sugarcrm.com> References: <52DCA3E7.80602@lerdorf.com> <52DCED71.3020207@pthreads.org> <006301cf15f5$22f8df60$68ea9e20$@tutteli.ch> <52DD8D15.7000407@sugarcrm.com> <52DD929E.5070906@sugarcrm.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 13:24:31 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 3_K4_WfVZwx24s3fSEK_Z6biXrk Message-ID: To: Stas Malyshev Cc: Philip Sturgeon , Philip Sturgeon , Robert Stoll , Joe Watkins , "internals@lists.php.net" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Introducing "Array Of" RFC From: pollita@php.net (Sara Golemon) > it is not ridiculous not in a little > bit. I've seen genericized code in big projects, I've seen it both in > Java and C++ (oh horrors!) and when it gets into the third level of > templates (and it will) I don't think I want to go there if I can help it. > And people can write horrendous looking code with PHP as it is now, but that doesn't have anything to do with whether or not PHP can be used to write quality software. I called your analogy ridiculous because it doesn't take the comparison seriously. I can write a function which requires 10,000 parameters, does that mean that we should remove functions from the language? Come off it. -Sara